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Going to Europe for the first time. Any tips?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:20 am
Going to be there for 14 days in April. Starting in Rome ending in Paris. Also going to: Pompeii, Capri, Florence, and Pisa to Cinque terre. We are traveling by train once there. I booked a nice hotel in Paris and we were planning on staying at Hostels for the rest but we have not booked these yet.
My questions.
Do we need to buy our train tickets ahead of time?
Is this too many places to cram in 14 days?
I heard pickpocketing was bad. Should I leave my nice watch at home?
Best places to eat? Should we look for hole in the wall restaurants?
Any tips about anything for a first time traveler to Europe are appreciated.
My questions.
Do we need to buy our train tickets ahead of time?
Is this too many places to cram in 14 days?
I heard pickpocketing was bad. Should I leave my nice watch at home?
Best places to eat? Should we look for hole in the wall restaurants?
Any tips about anything for a first time traveler to Europe are appreciated.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:21 am to ctiger69
first off...you will get the best advice via the travel board....
2nd 14 days and all those places? doubt you will be able to see/experience everything. obviously pick out the must do's then have a list of things in each place that is secondary.
Yes, gypsies are out there especially in Rome. Put wallet in front pocket and wear one of those travel wallets that go around your neck and under your shirt with extra cash and passport when needed.
Also, watch your 6 and be aware at all times. Lots of refugees over there right now. Touristy areas are hotspots for attacks. I dont want to alarm you at all just keep your head on a swivel.
2nd 14 days and all those places? doubt you will be able to see/experience everything. obviously pick out the must do's then have a list of things in each place that is secondary.
Yes, gypsies are out there especially in Rome. Put wallet in front pocket and wear one of those travel wallets that go around your neck and under your shirt with extra cash and passport when needed.
Also, watch your 6 and be aware at all times. Lots of refugees over there right now. Touristy areas are hotspots for attacks. I dont want to alarm you at all just keep your head on a swivel.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 11:25 am
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:23 am to tke857
way too many places for only 14 days. travel takes up a lot of time.
You could spend a week alone in just London, Rome, Paris, etc.
You could spend a week alone in just London, Rome, Paris, etc.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:25 am to tke857
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Put wallet in front pocket and wear one of those travel wallets that go around your neck and under your shirt with extra cash and passport when needed.
I bought one of those travel wallets and a money belt.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:28 am to dallastiger55
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way too many places for only 14 days. travel takes up a lot of time.
You could spend a week alone in just London, Rome, Paris, etc.
I was afraid of this.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:28 am to ctiger69
oh and in rome and in paris that I know of you can buy like 24hr...48...72hr metro passes lets you access the subway and buses an unlimited amount of times in that time period.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:30 am to ctiger69
Can't speak to Rome but there are definitely gypsies with a lot of different scams in Paris.
The biggest one is they have a clipboard and ask you to stop and take a survey. While distracted one of them will rob you. Just keep walking.
The eiffel tower and surrounding area is the worst spot for refugees scamming and selling worthless shite. The rest of the inner districts are ok.
The biggest one is they have a clipboard and ask you to stop and take a survey. While distracted one of them will rob you. Just keep walking.
The eiffel tower and surrounding area is the worst spot for refugees scamming and selling worthless shite. The rest of the inner districts are ok.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 1:55 pm to Fun Bunch
How many days are you staying in Paris? I wouldn't say its too much travel, people backpack like that all the time. But I would try and stay one place for 5 nights or more so Paris. You can do the big stuff in Rome in 3 nights, you can also spend a week there and not see everything and a year there and not do everything.
I think its good for that span of a trip to do a lot some days and do very little others. My advice if you are going to tear through Italy is to spend an extra day or two in Paris to enjoy and take your time.
Or cut some things off, up to you.
ETA: Definitely don't take a nice watch or nice jewelry in general. Just asking for trouble.
I think its good for that span of a trip to do a lot some days and do very little others. My advice if you are going to tear through Italy is to spend an extra day or two in Paris to enjoy and take your time.
Or cut some things off, up to you.
ETA: Definitely don't take a nice watch or nice jewelry in general. Just asking for trouble.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:37 pm to ctiger69
Whew, I wish I still had the energy to contemplate an itinerary that wide-ranging in 2 weeks. Makes my old azz tired just thinking about it! Have been to everything on your list, I'd probably choose to skip Pompeii & Capri in favor of starting in Rome & moving north the whole time. Beginning in Rome & going down to Pompeii/Naples/Capri is out of your way. Continuing northward makes things a bit more efficient; you won't be doubling-back on yourself that way. I'd also skip Pisa, too, in favor of more time in Rome or Florence.
Yes, leave your expensive watch at home, along w/any jewelry. Make sure you have a daypack or lighter bag you can separate from your bigger rucksack so you can take advantage of luggage storage @ train stations or in hostel lockers/luggage drops. Don't just consider hostels, but also look for religious housing--monasteries and convents rent rooms to travelers too (though some have early "lock out" hours if you're a night owl).
Biggest first-timer tip: don't overpack. Figure out a basic wardrobe that can be dressed up or down, don't be an ugly american in cargo shorts & a logo t-shirt. You will receive slightly better treatment if you don't look like a hobo or street person. Make sure you pack undies & socks that can be washed in a sink, along w/a small bar of soap or thin soap wafer sheets. A quick drying microfiber washcloth and small towel are great for personal care, for a picnic, impromptu trip to the beach, rolled up as a pillow, etc etc. If female, an oversized cotton scarf is a must (swim cover up, wrap, etc). If male, at least one collared, long sleeve shirt.
Knuckle band aids are great for covering foot blisters, and Vapur collapsible water bottles are worth their weight in gold as you can refill wherever you find free water & they fit easily in a pocket.
Yes, leave your expensive watch at home, along w/any jewelry. Make sure you have a daypack or lighter bag you can separate from your bigger rucksack so you can take advantage of luggage storage @ train stations or in hostel lockers/luggage drops. Don't just consider hostels, but also look for religious housing--monasteries and convents rent rooms to travelers too (though some have early "lock out" hours if you're a night owl).
Biggest first-timer tip: don't overpack. Figure out a basic wardrobe that can be dressed up or down, don't be an ugly american in cargo shorts & a logo t-shirt. You will receive slightly better treatment if you don't look like a hobo or street person. Make sure you pack undies & socks that can be washed in a sink, along w/a small bar of soap or thin soap wafer sheets. A quick drying microfiber washcloth and small towel are great for personal care, for a picnic, impromptu trip to the beach, rolled up as a pillow, etc etc. If female, an oversized cotton scarf is a must (swim cover up, wrap, etc). If male, at least one collared, long sleeve shirt.
Knuckle band aids are great for covering foot blisters, and Vapur collapsible water bottles are worth their weight in gold as you can refill wherever you find free water & they fit easily in a pocket.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 3:31 pm to tke857
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Yes, gypsies are out there especially in Rome. Put wallet in front pocket and wear one of those travel wallets that go around your neck and under your shirt with extra cash and passport when needed.
Also, watch your 6 and be aware at all times. Lots of refugees over there right now. Touristy areas are hotspots for attacks.
Yikes that's a bit too much, no? Also, what do refugees have to do with pickpocketing? That's been happening long before the refugee crisis.
OP, wear your fancy watch. Wallet in front pocket isn't a bad idea. Just be aware when in crowded areas.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:41 am to ctiger69
have the time of the your life. check to make sure your wallet is still in your pocket every 20 seconds
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:44 am to ctiger69
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Best places to eat? Should we look for hole in the wall restaurants?
Yes, look for the hole in the wall restaurants or top suggestions on the web. If someone has to shove the menu in your face to sell you on their place it probably is average. You can fall into a lot of traps like this in Rome.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:10 pm to TimmyTigah
buy euros before you leave. currency exchange vendors on the street are a ripoff. go to your bank and buy and can resell if you come home with any left.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:14 pm to ctiger69
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Best places to eat? Should we look for hole in the wall restaurants?
I'm visiting Europe for 17 days in June. I plan to just look for hole in the wall restaurants. I'm focusing my planning on hotels/hostels and just letting the food/entertainment happen.
quote:
I heard pickpocketing was bad. Should I leave my nice watch at home?
Not a bad idea. Thanks for the heads up.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:41 pm to hungryone
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don't be an ugly american in cargo shorts & a logo t-shirt.
huh??
I have a friend who is a native italian and a professor and he wears cargo shorts all the time with tees in italy.
This is just laughable.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 3:22 pm to Fat Bastard
Agreed. Being an ugly American has little to do with what you wear. I say little because if you do a tour of a church don't show up in shorts and a tank top. It's downright disrespectful.
Expecting everyone you meet to speak English? Now that is being an ugly American.
Expecting everyone you meet to speak English? Now that is being an ugly American.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 6:12 pm to VABuckeye
What? Idk how many people I saw touring churches in shorts and shirts, even sandals and many were not American.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 7:01 pm to tduecen
The big churches like St. Mark's Basilica and The Vatican and St. Pete's have dress codes, particularly for women. They will require a shawl to cover bare shoulders. Men aren't supposed to wear shorts but many people ignore the rules.
Yes, people break the rules but I'd prefer to give proper respect and dress the way they ask.
The Vatican
St. Mark's Basilica
YMMV as some guards are more lenient than others.
Yes, people break the rules but I'd prefer to give proper respect and dress the way they ask.
The Vatican
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As a sign of respect most visitors wear long-sleeve shirts and a pair of long pants. For those visiting the Vatican who come unprepared, as a way to skip around the dress code of the Vatican you can purchase plastic cloaks that you can wrap around yourself to cover your knees and shoulders.
St. Mark's Basilica
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A note to females - you will absolutely not be allowed inside the church with shoulders or knees visible. You will see plenty in line not covered but they will be pulled aside and made to purchase a cover up for around 1 euro once you get closer to the door. I recommend covering up if you can or expect to buy a cover.
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The dress code at the Basilica San Marco restrictions do not allow: tank tops, sleeveless shirts, shorts, and exposed knees. Capris for women are fine. Most men were wearing pants or long cargo type shorts that cover the knee.
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St.Peter's Basilica & Sistine Chapel / Vatican Museums Dress Code:
Men:
Men should wear long pants and short sleeves t-shirts or shirts are OK but no vest tops.
Jeans are OK, official rules state no shorts.
As summers can be very hot the Vatican do sometimes relax the rules and allow Men to wear shorts however it is worth noting that this may not always be the case and the official dress code does state no shorts.
It is good perhaps to carry a pair of long pants with you in case or wear the cargo style pants that allow you to unzip the lower legs to create shorts when needed.
Men should also be aware that hats need to be removed before entering any church or Chapel which includes St Peter's Basilica and the Sistine Chapel.
Women:
Women can wear trousers, capri pants and skirts and dresses are permitted however they cannot be shorter than knee length and shoulders must be covered.
In very hot weather a shawl or large scarf/Pashmina can be draped around the shoulders for visiting the sites.
Bare shoulders and short skirts are not permitted and again come prepared to cover up if wearing shorts.
Accepted
Mens
- Long pants
- At least short sleeves
Women
- The knees covered
- At least short sleeves
Rejected
- Shorts
- T-shirts without sleeves
- Short skirts
- Baseball caps inside the churches
YMMV as some guards are more lenient than others.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 2/19/17 at 1:21 am to ctiger69
I would suggest purchase of red(hotels, restaurants) and green(notable sites) Michelin Guides for the quick and easy reference. Places are rated and are helpful in finding out of the way sites and places to stay and eat. Prefer Rome over Paris.
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