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SSD not booting windows, what are my options?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:18 pm
The SSD is a 1TB Samsung 980 M.2 NVME. Less than a year old. Copied everything including windows from an older drive when I got it.
It's at half capacity
Windows automatic updates are on
I booted windows off the old drive and it worked fine
I can still access all the files on the SSD, it just fails to boot Windows
I've tried re-seating everything inside the PC --> nothing
I've tried booting in safe mode --> nothing
Should I just backup everything from the SSD > wipe it > clean install windows > move all the files back to the SSD?
Is that even a viable option? Any way I can salvage this thing as the main drive?
The image below is an example of what happens every time I boot off the SSD.
It's at half capacity
Windows automatic updates are on
I booted windows off the old drive and it worked fine
I can still access all the files on the SSD, it just fails to boot Windows
I've tried re-seating everything inside the PC --> nothing
I've tried booting in safe mode --> nothing
Should I just backup everything from the SSD > wipe it > clean install windows > move all the files back to the SSD?
Is that even a viable option? Any way I can salvage this thing as the main drive?
The image below is an example of what happens every time I boot off the SSD.
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:41 pm to reauxl tigers
Maybe the boot block got corrupted? Try to search for solutions to that.
You could also try to do a windows repair with the install media. Quit if it asks to wipe or overwrite existing data.
You could also try to do a windows repair with the install media. Quit if it asks to wipe or overwrite existing data.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:40 pm to reauxl tigers
quote:
hould I just backup everything from the SSD > wipe it > clean install windows > move all the files back to the SSD?
This. Get a new 1 TB NVME drive.
Back up the files you need off the drive that won't boot.
Do a fresh Windows install on the new drive.
Copy the files that you backed up to the new drive.
After you get everything set up like you want on the new drive, do a drive copy to the old 1 TB drive which will format the that drive and create a duplicate backup of the new drive.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 8:00 pm to reauxl tigers
You can't just file copy to a new ssd and expect it to work.
You need to boot off a windows installation usb, and i think with 10+ there is a boot repair option. You have to set the partition to boot, and there are supplemental partitions you need for windows 10+.
You need to boot off a windows installation usb, and i think with 10+ there is a boot repair option. You have to set the partition to boot, and there are supplemental partitions you need for windows 10+.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:35 pm to reauxl tigers
quote:
Should I just backup everything from the SSD > wipe it > clean install windows > move all the files back to the SSD?
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Unless you're really wanting to waste a lot of time going down rabbit holes just for the fun of digital spelunking, back it all up, wipe, reinstall then migrate the data back.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:49 am to reauxl tigers
Why don't you just clone the old drive to the new drive?
Posted on 1/14/23 at 2:37 am to LsuFan_1955
quote:The old drive is what’s already cloned on the new SSD.
Why don't you just clone the old drive to the new drive?
quote:In the simplest terms, I guess it’s ok to wipe the old drive > clone SSD to it > wipe SSD > clean install windows > return files to SSD?
back it all up, wipe, reinstall then migrate the data back.
If that’s a yes I can figure it out from there.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 2:44 am
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:55 pm to reauxl tigers
I bought a 1 TB SSD from Crucial Memory and was able to clone a bootable SSD.
Perhaps you are missing the correct Software to make a bootable clone.
Do a Google search for ACRONIS TRUE IMAGE software. I downloaded from the Crucial Memory website.
Perhaps you are missing the correct Software to make a bootable clone.
Do a Google search for ACRONIS TRUE IMAGE software. I downloaded from the Crucial Memory website.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 8:56 pm to j1897
So, a device that was functioning, and has no moving parts, is what a couple of you jump to as being a hardware failure immediately? 
If the drive is actually bad, there are still going to be storage errors likely reported by a UEFI BIOS.
There is more troubleshooting to do before you go spending money on another SSD. On the BackBlaze drive reliability chart for drive failures, there isn't a single SSD listed in the top 30ish failures, yet the lowest annual failure rate of a HDD on the list is .08%.
1) Boot to a live CD or a basic Linux distro on a USB stick. Can you see the SSD volume? If so, it's probably the boot block or similar issue. How this happens unless you're actively messing around with Diskpart, or similar, I couldn't tell you. If you can't, there's your answer, but at least you confirmed it before spending another $100. Come to think of it, when you boot to the HDD, assuming the SSD is still plugged in, can you see the SSD volume then?
2) Start unplugging other stuff (this includes keyboards, mice, webcams, etc.) I know you probably don't have any cards except maybe a video card. I've had issues with USB ports just "disappearing," which means I suspect that USB devices present a decent risk to a boot sequence. Just because the old HDD can boot with stuff plugged in doesn't mean that the SSD doesn't have newer drivers (either for the devices or for you mobo chipset) which could be causing issues.
3) If that fails, I support using the Windows Installation Media from USB to attempt a repair of boot areas and partition tables. It may not work, but again, trying to save you from spending $100 if it's un-needed.
If the drive is actually bad, there are still going to be storage errors likely reported by a UEFI BIOS.
There is more troubleshooting to do before you go spending money on another SSD. On the BackBlaze drive reliability chart for drive failures, there isn't a single SSD listed in the top 30ish failures, yet the lowest annual failure rate of a HDD on the list is .08%.
1) Boot to a live CD or a basic Linux distro on a USB stick. Can you see the SSD volume? If so, it's probably the boot block or similar issue. How this happens unless you're actively messing around with Diskpart, or similar, I couldn't tell you. If you can't, there's your answer, but at least you confirmed it before spending another $100. Come to think of it, when you boot to the HDD, assuming the SSD is still plugged in, can you see the SSD volume then?
2) Start unplugging other stuff (this includes keyboards, mice, webcams, etc.) I know you probably don't have any cards except maybe a video card. I've had issues with USB ports just "disappearing," which means I suspect that USB devices present a decent risk to a boot sequence. Just because the old HDD can boot with stuff plugged in doesn't mean that the SSD doesn't have newer drivers (either for the devices or for you mobo chipset) which could be causing issues.
3) If that fails, I support using the Windows Installation Media from USB to attempt a repair of boot areas and partition tables. It may not work, but again, trying to save you from spending $100 if it's un-needed.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:17 pm to LemmyLives
So if all else fails and I do have to buy a new SSD, can I just clone the old SSD the new one or will that cause a problem?
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:42 pm to reauxl tigers
quote:
So if all else fails and I do have to buy a new SSD,
Clone it, (like with Acronis TrueImage, or the Samsung Data Migration Tool) but do NOT "copy" it. It will create partitions, establish boot volumes, system volumes, etc., and it will actually work.
However, if the problem is related to misconfigured parameters like boot and system volumes, either tool will just re-create the problem on the new drive.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:26 am to LemmyLives
I think I used Macrium Reflect to clone the last one
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:46 pm to LemmyLives
quote:I cloned the old drive to the current SSD in question and everything worked fine for about 6 months.
either tool will just re-create the problem on the new drive.
update: i took the SSD and put it in my own PC and it doesn't even show up in the BIOS as a boot option. Any reason for this?
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:40 pm to reauxl tigers
Update: Well I fixed it.
Put the SSD back into mother's PC > booted with windows installation media > opened boot menu > troubleshoot > uninstall last windows update > restarted > opened BIOS > switched boot priority back to SSD > spammed F12 > and for some reason this worked.
Put the SSD back into mother's PC > booted with windows installation media > opened boot menu > troubleshoot > uninstall last windows update > restarted > opened BIOS > switched boot priority back to SSD > spammed F12 > and for some reason this worked.
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 6:46 pm
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