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Danger of router/wifi location to baby?
Posted on 7/3/15 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 7/3/15 at 7:54 pm
Is it dangerous to have my router under the crib where my kid sleeps? Tough to get an answer trying to look online, just wondering if anyone here has any idea on the matter?
If it is bad how would I go about moving it?
If it is bad how would I go about moving it?
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Posted on 7/3/15 at 7:58 pm to RandySavage
Only if the baby takes off his/her tinfoil hat.
Posted on 7/3/15 at 8:19 pm to RandySavage
quote:Sounds like a great idea for the router and the baby. I personally make my 2 kids sleep on top of all my electronic wave carrier gear. Who wouldn't?
have my router under the crib where my kid sleeps?
Posted on 7/3/15 at 8:29 pm to drizztiger
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In fact, due to their lower frequency, at similar RF exposure levels, the body absorbs up to five times more of the signal from FM radio and television than from base stations. This is because the frequencies used in FM radio (around 100 MHz) and in TV broadcasting (around 300 to 400 MHz) are lower than those employed in mobile telephony (900 MHz and 1800 MHz) and because a person's height makes the body an efficient receiving antenna. Further, radio and television broadcast stations have been in operation for the past 50 or more years without any adverse health consequence being established.
Need to wrap baby in tinfoil to be sure.
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Posted on 7/3/15 at 8:31 pm to UltimaParadox
So you agree that the best placement for a router in under your baby's crib. We agree then. 
Posted on 7/3/15 at 11:09 pm to RandySavage
I would personally never put any devices capable of generating electromagnetic waves near toddlers. The effects of higher frequency EMF on our bodies are not very clearly understood, and some of these effects take a long time to manifest. I do not believe we have done enough longitudinal studies to understand their effects. And no, a 100MHz FM transmitter 10 miles away and a 2.4GHz transmitter 10 ft away (even thought transmitting at 1mw) are not the same. Our body and the chemicals respond differently to different frequencies. The machine that does MRI uses EMF to image your body and will ot work with waves of all frequencies and polarization.
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At our house, the WiFi transmitter is at the highest point in the house, is switched off at night, and the transmit power is set such that we optimally cover the whole house and not more. Similarly we do not place cellphones or cordless phones by the bed (they are away - also helps with the alarms as one has to walk up to switch them off and cannot just snooze), and try to use a Bluetooth headset instead of putting the phone directly on our ears (much much lesser power). If all these precautions are paying off, only time will tell. But I would rather be careful than sorry when I know our knowledge in this area is full of holes and not well understood.
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At our house, the WiFi transmitter is at the highest point in the house, is switched off at night, and the transmit power is set such that we optimally cover the whole house and not more. Similarly we do not place cellphones or cordless phones by the bed (they are away - also helps with the alarms as one has to walk up to switch them off and cannot just snooze), and try to use a Bluetooth headset instead of putting the phone directly on our ears (much much lesser power). If all these precautions are paying off, only time will tell. But I would rather be careful than sorry when I know our knowledge in this area is full of holes and not well understood.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 12:03 am
Posted on 7/3/15 at 11:23 pm to strings
quote:I guess all the people who work at AM/FM stations are screwed then.
And no, a 100MHz FM transmitter 10 miles away and a 2.4GHz transmitter 10 ft (even thought transmitting at 1mw) are not the same.
quote:I don't think the small precautions you're taking will do much considering all the EMF signals everywhere you go.
If all these precautions are paying off, only time will tell
Posted on 7/4/15 at 12:00 am to GeauxTigersLee
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I don't think the small precautions you're taking will do much considering all the EMF signals everywhere you go.
Not really. The power of the EM signal drops by the square of the distance, so yes, by putting things away, I am reducing the total amount of radiation I am subjecting myself to. Now, if that carefulness pays off only depends on the long-term effects of full blow radiation exposure on a human. If there is not much to begin with, then my attenuation of those waves did not really save me. But I doubt that there is not much effect.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:39 am to strings
So if the only Internet cable hook up is in that room how would I go about adding a new one?
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:50 am to strings
Oooooookaaayya then..
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:23 am to RandySavage
Why not ask this guy LINK he has a three page thread going on about it on the OT. Oh wait thats you.
Try the poli board next, you might get the answer you are shopping for there, if not the can at least loan you their extra tin foil hats.
Try the poli board next, you might get the answer you are shopping for there, if not the can at least loan you their extra tin foil hats.
Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:36 am to RandySavage
quote:
So if the only Internet cable hook up is in that room how would I go about adding a new one?
I would suggest you do this - in the internet hook up that you have in the baby's room - turn off the wiFi feature. You will make it just a wired router. Now you add one of those cheap Wireless routers as an access-point and connect it to the wired router in the baby's room. This connection can either be done using a regular CAT5/6 cable if you can or use a Powerline Ethernet setup. Here are the links of tech that will work for you. I am not sure how big of a house you have and what the layout is, and what kind of basic internet system (the router+modem) you have, so these may have to be refined depending on your system ...
TP-Link:
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Refub Netgeat:
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The above routers are cheap enough to be purchased for acting as just access-points. You can even switch these off at night when no one is using wireless.
If you have a small sized house, even these may work -
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And now to extend the internet connection to the above wireless points you can either run a regular CAT5/6 or use the powerline as a path for CAT5/6 using these -
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So tersely -
1. The Internet endpoint in the baby's room is just a wired router (plus modem). It does not radiate any EM waves. It however does DHCP and assigns addresses to all the devices at home.
2. A CAT5/6 Cable or PLC (power line communication) kit connects a separate AP to the router above.
3. An AP that is strong enough for your house acts as the source for WiFi signal, and is placed centrally in the house, at about 8-10 ft off the ground (ours is on a wooden shelf). This AP acts as a conduit between Wireless clients and the wired-ethernet router. You may choose to switch this off without disturbing any wired clients at any time.
If you need, I would be more than happy to walk you through the setup process to make all of this come together.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:34 pm to RandySavage
quote:
So if the only Internet cable hook up is in that room how would I go about adding a new one?
So it's literally under the crib? I was assuming a multi floor set up with the baby's room above the room with the router. I think strings has gone overboard, but he is right in that we don't know much about long term exposure risks of technology that's only been widely deployed for the last decade or so. I have heard of people having pains/headaches that they associated with their wifi.
As for how to move the internet hookup, you either are going to have to run cables to a router in another room like strings suggested, or you'll need to get the cable company out to move the connection which they'll likely charge you for.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 9:37 am to RandySavage
you posted this fricking stupid thread again?? seriously??
Posted on 7/6/15 at 1:27 pm to RandySavage
You should petition Chicken to change your login to RandyGirlyMan
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