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Can someone explain to me how to add a better router to the default combo ATT gigapower

Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:54 am
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 10:54 am
comes with? Pretend I'm an idiot.

The 5G continously drops off and the 2.4 isn't that great.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5058 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:55 pm to
Run Cat6 cable from ATT unit to the LAN port of a better wireless router, and put that router in access point mode. You can do the same with a regular access point as well.
Posted by runforrestrun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
803 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:43 pm to
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Run Cat6 cable from ATT unit to the LAN port of a better wireless router, and put that router in access point mode. You can do the same with a regular access point as well.


I've actually done exactly this. I hooked my Nighthawk router to the shitty modem/router combo AT&T provides & can now see my wifi even when I'm 2 streets over. But I lose about 1/2 the bandwidth even when hardwired to the access point. Granted, you don't notice any difference between 1g and 500mbps, but still frustrating not to have full speed.

This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 5:14 pm to
Are there any plans for att gigapower to update their shitty equipment? Because I have no clue to do what was suggested.
Posted by runforrestrun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
803 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 5:30 pm to
Not that I'm aware of, but it's actually very simple to do. All you have to do is hookup any old wifi router to one of the 4 LAN ports on the back of the AT&T router & it should work.

Since my router is a netgear, I followed these Instructions
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 5:36 pm to
But doing that dilutes the WiFi speed?
Posted by runforrestrun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
803 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:30 pm to
In my experience, yes. But there's probably a setting I'm not seeing. I'd prefer to sacrifice speed to have a good wifi signal.
Posted by Calen50
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2011
91 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:35 pm to
Wi-Fi by current definition cuts your speeds in half. It uses radios to communicate back and forth in half duplex mode (meaning it can transmit or recieve, but not both at the same time). Wired Cat 5 and 6 can operate in full duplex (talk and recive at the same time). I've read that they are devolping radio antennas for Wi-Fi that can do full duplex, but who knows how long that will take to come to market. To add an access point means cutting your speeds in half again.
Posted by runforrestrun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
803 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:10 am to
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Wi-Fi by current definition cuts your speeds in half. It uses radios to communicate back and forth in half duplex mode (meaning it can transmit or recieve, but not both at the same time). Wired Cat 5 and 6 can operate in full duplex (talk and recive at the same time). I've read that they are devolping radio antennas for Wi-Fi that can do full duplex, but who knows how long that will take to come to market. To add an access point means cutting your speeds in half again.


All true, but in my case, even when using the AT&T equipment as just a modem & a Netgear Nighthawk as the router, I'm only getting 1/2 speed even when my laptop is hardwired with CAT6 directly to the router.
Posted by ShrevetownTiger
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
2365 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:52 pm to
I haven't had any problems with my router that I got with ATT, in fact it's been pretty solid. It doesn't have the range that my old router had but I get signal inside and outside the house and I've had about 6 devices connected wirelessly and didn't notice any drop off in performance.

Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 1:53 pm to
The 5g drops randomly on the att combo router
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:30 pm to
I can barely get a good signal two rooms over. The equipment sucks arse.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:13 am to
I had the same issue


Spent 300 bucks on the netgear Orbi dual router system and now I have enough wifi in my house to grow cancer cells
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 7:14 am
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:15 am to
5g has a much shorter range than 2.4 does I believe

I basically disabled 5g so I didn't have this problem, at least until I got the new router I mentioned above
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 9:39 am to
But 2.4 isn't as fast, right?
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 9:40 am to
And did your wifi speeds get cut in half with that Orbi router?
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:23 am to
2.4 is slower but doesn't really matter for your average use


The Orbi is no slower than the ATT router was, but I'm in a rural area and I can only get a 12MB connection
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40812 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 1:54 pm to
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Wi-Fi by current definition cuts your speeds in half


Not sure why you think this. Your WiFi is rated based on spectrum (2.4ghz or 5) and the standard (b/g/n/ac). Also some workers wireless routers use multiple channels across the spectrum to get even higher speeds, some closing in on 1 gigabit in real tests.

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It uses radios to communicate back and forth in half duplex mode (meaning it can transmit or recieve, but not both at the same time). Wired Cat 5 and 6 can operate in full duplex (talk and recive at the same time)


Technically true, but the end user won't care.

quote:

I've read that they are devolping radio antennas for Wi-Fi that can do full duplex, but who knows how long that will take to come to market.


They already exist, but are costly custom solutions that typical consumer will want.

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. To add an access point means cutting your speeds in half again.


Not true. It all depends on the current operating conditions. Bandwidth available is dependent upon what other devices are currently operating in the same spectrum, and the technology you are using.


To the original OP, unfortunately I do not know how to modify the settings of your ATT fiber equipment. If possible you would want to either disable it's routing capabilities or use it as the main router and use another access point. However the problem depends on what type of router att is using. The wifi might only be rated for say 380mbit or so. Which is way overkill for almost any use.

If you really want gigabit wifi speeds, you will need to bypass the att WiFi, and put into a bridge mode. Then make sure that you can connect from your ATT to your gigabit capable 802.11ac/ad router. Most of these routers will use a three antenna setup to get the extra throughout.

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