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re: Chelsea 2020/2021 Season Long Thread | Champions of Europe

Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:10 am to
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:10 am to
quote:

It's obvious Havertz and Werner suck


The last few years Timo went:

34/13
19/10
21/10
21/7

Havertz:

18/9
20/7
4/9

Neither of these guys suck. There's a reason they were in high demand. When they have a real manager, they'll be fine. Havertz might not produce for us because many teams aren't set up to use him properly. If that's the case, he'll leave, thrive, and people will talk about how we let another elite player leave like Salah/De Bruyne/etc
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:59 am to
I would put money on Werner coming good. Your Havertz take sounds pretty spot on as well.

I think Ziyech has the highest ceiling, but being a consistent winger may be one of the hardest things to do in the sport.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

When they have a real manager, they'll be fine.


What does Timo missing sitters and Kai being slow, lazy, and having a donkey touch have to do with Frank?

They are both mentally weak too not cut out for the Prem.
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:48 pm to
Did I imagine multiple Bundesliga teams in the Champions League SFs after all the mentally tough English teams went home?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

that's the case, he'll leave, thrive, and people will talk about how we let another elite player leave like Salah/De Bruyne/etc


Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11695 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:55 pm to
Really hope Chelsea hire John Terry after they sack Lampard just for thr laughs.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 2:48 pm to
Clearly the answer is bring in a German manager to replace Frank to bring out the best in Kai and Timo.... not as silly as it sounds actually lol
Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 3:55 pm to
Talking about confidence and lack luster and not trying.

Confidence: you take a team that was 3rd in Goals Fir. And spend millions bring in almost exclusively more attack. Showing little confidence in a team that was 3rd in GF. What does that do to a players psych.

Lackluster/not trying:
Werner- bailed on his teammates of four years to shop for a house instead of finishing out Leipzig champions league campaign. What kind of teammate in locker room do you think he is.

Werner is like Tebow. Played in an offensive system and now is in a new system and can’t coop. And can be argued going from NCAA to NFL is like bundesliga to EPL. (I love bundesliga but EPL is deeper and tougher)

Extra:
Chelsea tied for tenth if Goals Against. You bring in a keeper and a 36 year old that only faced competition at the EPL level the few knockout championships league for the last 8 years.
You just got an older version of David Luis. Minus the 7 years of EPL experience.
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Lackluster/not trying:
Werner- bailed on his teammates of four years to shop for a house instead of finishing out Leipzig champions league campaign. What kind of teammate in locker room do you think he is.



Probably fine, considering pretty much every player would do the exact same thing.

quote:

Werner is like Tebow. Played in an offensive system and now is in a new system and can’t coop. And can be argued going from NCAA to NFL is like bundesliga to EPL. (I love bundesliga but EPL is deeper and tougher)


You're comparing a supposed step up from the Bundesliga to the amateur to professional jump in American football? Are you joking?
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
5522 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 4:26 pm to
I honestly know very little about American football. So probably should not have made that comparison. But though process was people describe the NFL as a lot more physical than college. And people describe the EPL as a lot more physical than all other leagues minus CONCACAF on ankles.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87339 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Werner is like Tebow. Played in an offensive system and now is in a new system and can’t coop.


what "system" does CFC run?
Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
5522 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

what "system" does CFC run?


Good questions. That is part of their problem
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24560 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:12 am to
Pulisic looked horrid today. Starting to be concerned on his form
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20470 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:51 am to
He plays like such a weak little bitch at times. He hasn’t done shite in ages.
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:06 am to
Timo really has come down with the worst case of the Torres.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20470 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:16 am to
Maybe timo, havertz & Pulisic know fat Frank is a terrible coach and they’ve all agreed to play like shite and get him fired?
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:38 am to
Chelsea players love to get a manager sacked.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24560 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 4:35 am to
Looks like Frank’s getting sacked today.

Tuchel as the favorite to step in.

Thoughts?
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 7:44 am to
Glad Frank is out because he lost this team. Don’t know much about Tuchel.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87339 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:16 am to
Feel good about getting a German to fix the German kids and CP10

Don’t care about tuchel being a dick
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