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re: Yes China - that is what we are doing

Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:41 pm to
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growth worth diminishing our national security

Last time someone truly threatened America was WW2 has anyone attacked an onshore us base since? How are we less secure?

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gutting our middle class???
All the while the multinational corporations are enriching themselves.


So our companies are getting more money and that doesn't trickle out to everyone else in the form of more money for those workers here?
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:42 pm to
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put U.S. interests above the common good of the international community, and advance U.S. hegemonic ambitions


Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:44 pm to
AMERICA FIRST BITCH
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:47 pm to
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frick this Nash equilibrium bullshite


Nash equilibrium is literally predicated on maximizing self interest.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:52 pm to
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oklahogjr


Your standing on the USA should be the world cop and pay for it. In addition, allow the world to have an unfair economic advantage all in the name of peace.


Sorry sir AMERICANS are done with that and the fraudulent thieving NGO/USAid.
Posted by LSUnKaty
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:55 pm to
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It attempts to exploit tariffs to subvert the existing international economic and trade order, put China's. interests above the common good of the international community, and advance China's hegemonic ambitions at the cost of the legitimate interests of all countries.
FIFY
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:04 pm to
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Your standing on the USA should be the world cop and pay for it.

Not my position. This has been the US position since before I was born. I'm simply highlighting the change.

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In addition, allow the world to have an unfair economic advantage all in the name of peace.

Again define unfair. we continue to be the richest and most dominant global player under this strategy with our hegemony
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:10 pm to
China appears to be slow on the uptake
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Nash equilibrium is literally predicated on maximizing self interest.


Group self interest. At the expense of pure competition.
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Group self interest. At the expense of pure competition.


Nash equilibrium is only applicable to two player zero sum games, which in turn is pure competition. Doesn't seem like the proper usage in this situation.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:37 pm to
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Nash equilibrium is only applicable to two player zero sum games

It is generalized to an arbitrary number of players.

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Doesn't seem like the proper usage in this situation.

John Nash received the Nobel prize in Economics for the formalization of this concept.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:42 pm to
This is like someone punching you in the face, then when you deck them they complain that you hit them and that you’re mean.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:45 pm to
You are a hegemonic empire guy

We paid for Marshall plan etc to influence stuff therefore we must continue to bleed money.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:47 pm to
"'We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow."

Henry Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
794 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:15 pm to
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John Nash received the Nobel prize in Economics for the formalization of this concept.


Whelp, that solves it. Solutions to a narrow subset of games is applicable to all areas of an industry in which an award was presented I guess.

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It is generalized to an arbitrary number of players.


Final derail, Nash equilibrium can theoretically apply to multiplayer games, however, you will never get a true equilibrium convergence due to the presence of collusion (such as in the case of international trade).
Only in 2 player zero sum games can you guarantee that you will actually converge to a nash equilibrium.

By all means though, keep throwing around terms that you have little grasp of and keep digging deeper when questioned about them. Its not even clear what point you were trying to make.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1576 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:17 pm to
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"It attempts to exploit tariffs to subvert the existing international economic and trade order, put U.S. interests above the common good of the international community, and advance U.S. hegemonic ambitions at the cost of the legitimate interests of all countries.


Anyone else notice Chinese Marxists talk the same way as Dimtard Marxists?

Accusing the other side of doing the same damn thing they are doing, whether it is true or not.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 3:20 pm
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:18 pm to
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we've had more peace in the world since we quit doing this.


You are retarded...
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:28 pm to
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U.S. hegemonic ambitions at the cost of the legitimate interests of all countries.
Wash away the hegemonic hyperbole, and that is what every country does.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
8397 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Again define unfair. we continue to be the richest and most dominant global player under this strategy with our hegemony

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LOL we are 34+ trillion in debt and can barely pay the interest. Just stop the insanity. The American President is putting American interest 1st.

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Not my position. This has been the US position since before I was born. I'm simply highlighting the change


And it is wrong and not advantageous to the US.
Before WW II UAE was a sand pit with sheep hoarders, today they are loaded. 150 years ago England controlled a majority of the earth. shite changes and you will become a chapter in a history book if you don't adapt.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6299 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 4:05 pm to
With the exception of Korea, Vietnam, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Rwanda, Somalia, Argentina, the UK, Cambodia, India, Pakistan, and probably more, not to mention international terrorism.
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