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Wtf question :There are black communities living next to petroleum plants

Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:38 am
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54475 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:38 am
Rewatching debate and where in the hell did this question come from? Out of all the problems in this country the NBC moderator asked about BLACK families living next to petroleum plants. Fwiw I grew in a community of 98% white people around a refinery and no one ever questioned this. I just laughed when I heard the question on the debate rewatch
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19493 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:40 am to
Have to force race into the conversation no matter what.

Seems like our goal should be to have nobody ever consider race, but who constantly forces it into every discussion?
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18403 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:41 am to
The best part of the question, though, is it was a layup for Biden and his race narrative but he totally castrated himself with the oil industry comment during his answer.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78336 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:42 am to
Straight from the 1985 Democrat playlist. White people have the best neighborhoods ! Black people get cancer water !
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15286 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:42 am to
Land is cheap next to those places for a reason.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:42 am to
Don't you know they are forced to live there?

gotta remember these clowns do not understand economics
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:43 am to
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Land is cheap next to those places for a reason.


And there is no such thing as poor white folks.

Try driving through Appalachia or any rural area in any state.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9187 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 10:48 am to
If so, they either bought a house there, rent a house there or inherited a house there. So they chose to live there.

But if they think living by a working plant is bad, imagine having closed plants.

Ask steel country and manufacturing country about the realities of that. Many of those communities would be glad to have a functioning petroleum plant there for economic reasons and jobs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123778 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:05 am to
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There are black communities living next to petroleum plants
Yep. When Welker pulled that question, I told MsNC I'd bet huge money it came directly from a Biden campaign speech. i.e., Something incredibly obscure to stump Trump, but Joe would be familiar and handle it with his campaign talking point.
Trump handled it wonderfully!

Well, sure as shite, it was a Trump set up.
Here is Biden's website dating back to the summer...
quote:

Overhaul the EPA External Civil Rights Compliance Office.
For too long, the EPA External Civil Rights Compliance Office has ignored its requirements under Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That will end in the Biden Administration. Biden will overhaul that office and ensure that it brings justice to frontline communities that experience the worst impacts of climate change and fenceline communities that are located adjacent to pollution sources, beginning with the following actions: (i) revisit and rescind EPA’s decision in Select Steel and its Angelita C. settlement, which allowed state environmental agencies to issue dangerous permits, and to conduct its business in a way that harmed communities; (ii) conduct a rulemaking and open a public comment process to seek Americans’ input on agency guidance for investigating Title VI Administrative complaints; and (iii) work with Congress to empower communities to bring these cases themselves, by reinstituting a private right of action to sue Title VI, which was written out in the Supreme Court’s 2001 decision in Alexander v. Sandoval.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/24/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7626 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:33 am to
In almost all of these cases, the plant, refinery, etc. was there first and people came later and made their homes around it. No one is forced to live around a plant. If you don't like it, live somewhere else.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3252 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:36 am to
This is the foundation of the entire town of Norco. It was a refinery community for employees. Norco is literally An acronym for New Orleans Oil Refining. I’m sure it was 98% black at its founding.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101276 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:38 am to
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In almost all of these cases, the plant, refinery, etc. was there first and people came later and made their homes around it. No one is forced to live around a plant. If you don't like it, live somewhere else.




A place like North Baton Rouge basically exists as it is BECAUSE OF the refinery. All that housing stock was built for the then mostly white working class who moved in to work there. Once they started making plant baw cash, they looked to move away from the immediate environs. Left a bunch of cheap houses. BOOM “environmental racism!”
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:38 am to
Joe is losing too much of the Black vote to win.
Posted by ArkBengal
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2004
1921 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:39 am to
Refinery emissions control have come a long way since Joe had to clean the oil off his windshield
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94833 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:41 am to
Why do blacks live near the plants in Baton Rouge? Because that is the older part of town where all the cheap property is.

As people move, most affluent people aren’t going to buy a house near the plant if there is a better one available, which drops the property value and makes it more likely for a lower economic class individual to buy it.


That ain’t structural racism or NIMBYism, that is economics at work.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123778 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:46 am to
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Joe had to clean the oil off his windshield

Joe cleaned off his windshield in the same alternate universe where he stooddown CornPop and got arrested in SouthAfrica
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47471 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 11:51 am to
If it was really that dangerous to live around a refinery, it would have been already bought out like parts of Chalmette and Meraux.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:03 pm to
Why not put those kids in cages there and give the black refinery people the other spaces? Good trade?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29868 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:31 pm to
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Have to force race into the conversation no matter what.


this ^^^^^^

its all they have

and its common frickin sense why predominantly its blacks living next to all plants not just petroleum plants, property there is dirt cheap because its smelly and dusty and little to no stores around.

poors gravitate to poor neighborhoods because its all they can afford
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 10/24/20 at 12:40 pm to
Some lower middle class Whites, being slowly killed by Petroleum companies in Roxana, Wood River, and Hartford Illinois. I wondered why they didn't matter?
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