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WTF is Cambridge Analytica and Why exactly are we supposed to care?
Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:41 am
Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:41 am
Drudge is all over Cambridge Analytica today. This is bc he leans libertarian and freaks out about any intrusion on privacy -- private or government.
I have no idea what the Hell Cambridge Analytica is. So I did some googling and from what I can surmise, Cambridge Analytica obtained some demographic info on Trump voters from Facebook. Some they obtained from Facebook by telling them they were researchers. And some they obtained by making some kind of internet hocus pocus that analyzed what Facebook users liked and what ads they shared. Somehow there are Russians. Because Mike Flynn.
I'm not sure how any of this is controversial. Google AdWords does literally the same shite. Google anything and suddenly it's on your Facebook feed or whatever all over.
I'm not saying that any of this makes me comfortable or that I like it. But I do have a Facebook page whereupon I share lots of info about what I like and don't like with all my friends. It's not as if I believe Facebook isn't storing all that shite somewhere. There is not a single, solitary example of online commerce that does not "mine" data so that said advertisers cannot market the idea more effectively. So why am I supposed to be worried that Trump's campaign did market research thru Facebook, exactly?
Apparently learning about what voters like through social media is Hitler Level bad when Trump Does it because there might be Russians.
Vox Link Sorry
New York Times Article
But when Obama learns about people through social media it is warm, fuzzy and there are rainbows, and no Russians.
Obama is wonderful and hearts and flowers
Am I missing something?
I have no idea what the Hell Cambridge Analytica is. So I did some googling and from what I can surmise, Cambridge Analytica obtained some demographic info on Trump voters from Facebook. Some they obtained from Facebook by telling them they were researchers. And some they obtained by making some kind of internet hocus pocus that analyzed what Facebook users liked and what ads they shared. Somehow there are Russians. Because Mike Flynn.
I'm not sure how any of this is controversial. Google AdWords does literally the same shite. Google anything and suddenly it's on your Facebook feed or whatever all over.
I'm not saying that any of this makes me comfortable or that I like it. But I do have a Facebook page whereupon I share lots of info about what I like and don't like with all my friends. It's not as if I believe Facebook isn't storing all that shite somewhere. There is not a single, solitary example of online commerce that does not "mine" data so that said advertisers cannot market the idea more effectively. So why am I supposed to be worried that Trump's campaign did market research thru Facebook, exactly?
Apparently learning about what voters like through social media is Hitler Level bad when Trump Does it because there might be Russians.
Vox Link Sorry
New York Times Article
But when Obama learns about people through social media it is warm, fuzzy and there are rainbows, and no Russians.
Obama is wonderful and hearts and flowers
Am I missing something?
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:45 am to Wednesday
Attempt # 413 to assign some evil plot to Trump
Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:45 am to Wednesday
So I guess this will be the new boogie man since Bannon and Mercer were behind it.
Muh Analytica!
Muh Analytica!
Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:01 am to Wednesday
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Google AdWords does literally the same shite.
Facebook is the king of this. In fact, any marketing company worth its salt seeks to do something along these lines. It isn't hard to see that this is just another faux outrage designed to delegitimize the Trump (and Brexit) elections.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:09 am to SlackMaster
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Facebook is the king of this
Right? Facebook produces nothing. Except data. How else did that twerp Mark Zuckerberg become a billionaire? It's so stupid.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:11 am to LSU90
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Attempt # 413 to assign some evil plot to Trump
This. What is lost in this is the blatantly poliical move by Facebook to harm President Trump's re-election chances by selectively banning his former election data firm from the platform. I'm wondering if an FEC investigation can be brought into play.
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 10:13 am
Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:11 am to Wednesday
Just fodder for the rapid left
They will want to destroy Zuck now
Will be hilarious to watch
They will want to destroy Zuck now
Will be hilarious to watch
Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:24 am to Wednesday
Headlines say: Secret Evil new tool of manipulation used by Trump campaign
Buried in the articles: this is next-gen analytics that that has been used for many advertisers, campaigns etc, that the Mercers commissioned. And the leftist poster boy in our headlines left the group after being fired and 2014.
Reading deeper into it, it's what we have all known was coming. *Gasp* They're using our public social media account to to profile us!!!!!
Buried in the articles: this is next-gen analytics that that has been used for many advertisers, campaigns etc, that the Mercers commissioned. And the leftist poster boy in our headlines left the group after being fired and 2014.
Reading deeper into it, it's what we have all known was coming. *Gasp* They're using our public social media account to to profile us!!!!!
Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:50 am to Jackalope
It's an attempt to end Trump in 2020, and the GOP majority in 2018
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:01 am to Jjdoc
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It's an attempt to end Trump in 2020, and the GOP majority in 2018
It is a technique perfected by the Obama Administration. passively aggressively prohibit the ability of your political opponents to organize.
If they somehow manage to criminalize campaigning via social media research, I am not sure how that's different from preventing grass-roots organization by failing to provide a tax ID number/fundraising ability/501(c) status to conservative groups.
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:04 am to Wednesday
Recommend reading this article. The first public interview of the mastermind who illegally used data obtained from Facebook to create psychological and political profiles of 230 million Americans which, in turn, was used by the Russians and Trump campaign to target people with fake news. This guy, Chris Wylie, has become a whistleblower.
Right or left, you should care about what was happening to your data.
LINK
Right or left, you should care about what was happening to your data.
LINK
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:06 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Right or left, you should care about what was happening to your data
I did read the article.
I do care what's happening to my data.
According to Facebook (a monopoly), it's ok if the Obama campaign has access to my likes, preferences and interests. Just not ok if the Trump campaign does.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:10 am to Wednesday
quote:
It is a technique perfected by the Obama Administration. passively aggressively prohibit the ability of your political opponents to organize. If they somehow manage to criminalize campaigning via social media research, I am not sure how that's different from preventing grass-roots organization by failing to provide a tax ID number/fundraising ability/501(c) status to conservative groups.
They are doing that without the Cambridge people being banned.
They changed their platform and literally cut Trump's visibility by 45%
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:12 am to Jjdoc
I agree with you wholeheartedly, that the monopoly of leftists of social media outlets is a danger to a free society.
It is Orwellian and terrifying.
It is Orwellian and terrifying.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:14 am to Wednesday
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But I do have a Facebook page whereupon I share lots of info about what I like and don't like with all my friends.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:27 am to Wednesday
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According to Facebook (a monopoly), it's ok if the Obama campaign has access to my likes, preferences and interests. Just not ok if the Trump campaign does.
If you read the article and this is your takeaway, perhaps you need to read it again.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:35 am to mmmmmbeeer
He read it. I read it. We also read all of the other articles about the Obama admin doing it.
You see there is a huge difference between conservatives and socialist. We like everybody to adhere to the same laws and same standards.
You dont. It's ok for Obama... not ok for Trump.
You see there is a huge difference between conservatives and socialist. We like everybody to adhere to the same laws and same standards.
You dont. It's ok for Obama... not ok for Trump.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:38 am to Jjdoc
I guess nuance isn't you're thing.
Big difference between illegally acquiring troves of data on 230 million Americans to build psychological and political profiles to target Russian orchestrated fake news as CA did and a campaign tracking likes to solicit campaign donations.
Big difference between illegally acquiring troves of data on 230 million Americans to build psychological and political profiles to target Russian orchestrated fake news as CA did and a campaign tracking likes to solicit campaign donations.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:44 am to Wednesday
quote:Sounds like Cambridge Analytica took basic Facebook data including published "likes" and shared info, then developed profiles based on that info. Nothing nefarious there. Likely similar to Obama's data mining efforts in 2008/2012.
WTF is Cambridge Analytica
The only question seems to be how CA actually acquired the info in question.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 11:45 am to NC_Tigah
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The only question seems to be how CA actually acquired the info in question.
That's what the entire article is about. They obtained the data illegally and they obtained a frick ton of a lot more than just "likes" and shared info.
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