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re: Would drug legalization increase the frequency of overdoses?

Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:10 pm to
I'm curious to know, as I don't have a concrete opinion on the matter, what the board thinks of the notion that legalization laws have caused the creation and/or epidemic of 'off-shoot' drugs such as crack and meth.

Would crack ever have become the epidemic it became if cocaine was legal, and not so expensive?

This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 8:15 pm
Posted by volforever
nashville
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:12 pm to
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Would crack ever have become the epidemic it became if cocaine was legal, and not so expensive?



no.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:14 pm to
From what I can tell all of your links are by drug supporters. No credibility.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:15 pm to
Would cheaper coke be better? It was a cheaper alternative that appealed to the lower class.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:15 pm to
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Would crack ever have become the epidemic it became if cocaine was legal, and not so expensive?





yes
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:16 pm to
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From what I can tell all of your links are by drug supporters. No credibility.


Albany.edu?

Interesting. I guess facts mean nothing if you don't like the source citing them. Does it change the actual facts?

Posted by volforever
nashville
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:16 pm to
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From what I can tell all of your links are by drug supporters. No credibility.


Your credibility is pretty low too.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:16 pm to
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Yet we have proof of the opposite with prohibition.


Hundred year old proof. Would that be 100 proof?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:17 pm to
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Violent crime would definitely increase if hard drugs were legalized. GT23 has already explained the reasons.


This a joke?
Posted by volforever
nashville
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:18 pm to
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This a joke?



He seems to be a joke.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:22 pm to
LINK

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In 1900, between 2 percent and 5 percent of the entire adult population of the United States were addicted to drugs. The average drug user was a rural middle-aged white woman who used morphine-based patent medicines. The murder rate in 1900 was 1.2 per 100,000 people. But that all changed as America went through one of its periodic bouts of Puritanism.

In 1914, Congress passed the Harrison Narcotic Act that essentially banned the non-medical sale of opiates and cocaine derivatives. The murder rate the year after was 5.9 per 100,000. Then came the 18th Amendment in 1920, outlawing the sale of all alcoholic beverages. In 1921, the murder rate in America jumped to 8.1 per 100,000. Of course, the 1920s were the era of gangsters and bootleggers.

In 1933, America came back to its senses, or at least decided that the millions of unemployed during the Depression might need a good stiff drink now and then, and passed the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition. The murder rate that year reached 9.7 per 100,000. After Prohibition, the murder rate began to drift downward, dropping to 4.5 per 100,000 in 1958. Meanwhile, organized crime, jumpstarted by black markets for booze, had expanded their businesses into other black markets like gambling and prostitution, and, of course, still-banned drugs like opiates, cocaine, and marijuana.

By 1970, when Congress passed the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act, the murder rate had risen back to 8.3 per 100,000. In 1971, President Richard Nixon declared that drugs were the "No. 1 Public Enemy" and announced the beginning of a new "War on Drugs." In 1973, the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) was established. As the Drug War heated up, the murder rate reached an all-time high of 10.7 per 100,000 in 1980.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:23 pm to
I don't know if violent crime would increase if you took out the black market but other crimes would. Theft in particular. There would be more addicts and those addicts would need to feed their habit.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:25 pm to
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Albany.edu?

Yes. See the mj ad at the bottom of the page.

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Interesting. I guess facts mean nothing if you don't like the source citing them. Does it change the actual facts?
It casts doubt on their being a fact.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:25 pm to
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I don't know if violent crime would increase if you took out the black market but other crimes would. Theft in particular. There would be more addicts and those addicts would need to feed their habit.



If drugs are cheaper, why would crime increase? Also, you don't think safer, cheaper alternatives would come to the market?

Read my link above. We increase violent crime with prohibition and we establish criminal enterprise, giving it power with these backward laws.

Nowhere has prohibition reduced crime.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:28 pm to
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Posted by GeauxxxTigers23 I don't know if violent crime would increase if you took out the black market but other crimes would. Theft in particular. There would be more addicts and those addicts would need to feed their habit.


90 percent of drugs are agricultural products. Nobody has to steal to buy flour at 2 bucks for 5 lbs
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:28 pm to
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If drugs are cheaper, why would crime increase

The premise is flawed so far. Legal mj has increased in price.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:29 pm to
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As the Drug War heated up, the murder rate reached an all-time high of 10.7 per 100,000 in 1980.


Nice how you stopped at 1980. It's dropped sharply since then to the current rate of 4.7. Going by that metric the War on Drugs is a success.

LINK
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
8303 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:29 pm to
No...people OD on prescription drugs all the time. /thread
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:32 pm to
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The premise is flawed so far. Legal mj has increased in price.


I don't know what unnecessary regulation is in place to cause a plant to be prohibitively expensive, but if there are none someone will come in and offer it at the cost of oregeno
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