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re: Would drug legalization increase the frequency of overdoses?
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's mograybacks alter.
You may be onto something.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 7:50 pm
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:50 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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However I still think violence and theft will increase. IMO addiction would increase. Addicts will do anything to feed their habit
I think you're way off base. In the long run, the price for drugs would come down, safer alternatives would come about and the underground economy would lose a lot of it's steam, and power.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:51 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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The fact that you thought I was talking about you is insightful.
I know who you were talking too. I can still call you out on it if I'd like.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:52 pm to LSURussian
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It's mograybacks alter.
You may be onto something.
It's definitely him/her. SFP brought it out in another thread. Watch the personal attacks, they are a coming.
No doubt about this one.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:53 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I understand that argument. However I still think violence and theft will increase.
Why?
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IMO addiction would increase. Addicts will do anything to feed their habit and that rarely includes getting a job to pay for it. They lie cheat steal and murder if they have to. That's the crime that will increase. Even if the black market disappears.
I know functioning addicts that have jobs. They're are successful people with substance problems. A lot of the violence happens in distribution and fights over turf.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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People felt prohibition would lower crime
Link?
Crime was never the issue regarding prohibition. It was strictly moralistic.
Violent crime would definitely increase if hard drugs were legalized. GT23 has already explained the reasons.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Way more people use alcohol, and there were all sorts of violence that happened during prohibition, and it all but disappeared after it was repealed. We're talking about a very small segment of the population using these drugs these guys are so worried about.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:58 pm to LSURussian
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Violent crime would definitely increase if hard drugs were legalized. GT23 has already explained the reasons.
Yet we have proof of the opposite with prohibition.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:58 pm to LSURussian
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Crime was never the issue regarding prohibition. It was strictly moralistic.
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Violent crime would definitely increase if hard drugs were legalized. GT23 has already explained the reasons.
And it was complete BS conjecture.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:58 pm to LSURussian
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People felt prohibition would lower crime
Link?
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Prohibition was meant to reduce the consumption of alcohol, seen by some as the devil’s advocate, and thereby reduce crime, poverty, death rates, and improve the economy and the quality of life. “National prohibition of alcohol -- the ‘noble experiment’ -- was undertaken to reduce crime and corruption, solve social problems, reduce the tax burden created by prisons and poorhouses, and improve health and hygiene in America” (Thorton, 1).
LINK
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During Prohibition, the number of people serving time in prisons increased dramatically. The federal inmate population increased 561 percent from the pre-Prohibition period. State prisons, such as New York’s Sing Sing prison, also saw a large increase, which placed an enormous financial burden on all levels of government. This new burden precipitated a need for more tax revenues, threatening the vibrant economy of the 1920s and limiting government options once the economy began to decline.
LINK
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:00 pm to Patrick O Rly
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I know functioning addicts that have jobs. They're are successful people with substance problems. A lot of the violence happens in distribution and fights over turf.
That's anecdotal. I know women who can actually drive well, but if we use our eyeballs we can plainly see that they are in the minority.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Anecdotes are better than your guesses. Addiction effects a lot of people over many economic classes.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:03 pm to Patrick O Rly
I am well aware of that. I don't really see why you said that though. Did I imply socioeconomic status to my argument?
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:03 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Go away, mogray.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:04 pm to Patrick O Rly
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Addiction effects
Affects
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:06 pm to LSURussian
My bad.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Did violent crime decrease after prohibition?
If nothing is illegal, crime goes to zero, right?
If nothing is illegal, crime goes to zero, right?
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:08 pm to LSURussian
Strawman.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:09 pm to LSURussian
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Did violent crime decrease after prohibition?
LINK
Homicide rates sure did. Returned to pre-prohibition numbers.
Also did little in the long run to curb drinking.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:10 pm to LSURussian
You love the power of the state.
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