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re: Would drug legalization increase the frequency of overdoses?

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Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:43 am to
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I did nothing wrong and resent your accusation.



You can't start threads with user's names in them. I'm not going to Ra or say anything. I just thought it was poor taste.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:44 am to
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What is Roxyxontin?


It's a 30mg form of oxycontin that has no time release. It's also easily crushable so people can easily insulfate it.
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:45 am to
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From what I understand - the biggest blow to the production of meth amphetamine in the past 20 years came not from an increase in prison sentences or enforcement frequency - but from restricting the amount of pseudoephedrine one can buy and/or requiring the signature of the buyer


It did stop a lot of clandestine labs but Mexicans picked up the slack.

Cocaine will have spells in which supply is low. Mexican Ice never slows down.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:48 am to
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It did stop a lot of clandestine labs but Mexicans picked up the slack.

Cocaine will have spells in which supply is low. Mexican Ice never slows down.



Here's an idea.

Legalize it.

It worked just fine for the zillions of years prior to the war on drugs.

Make it illegal to distribute drugs to minors or encourage their use by minors - illegal to drive while under their impairment - and as a locality wishes, illegal to use in public - but making it a crime for adults to use whatever they like on their own property is futile.


Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:49 am to
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You can't start threads with user's names in them. I'm not going to Ra or say anything. I just thought it was poor t


Fair enough.

THough by my reading of the commanments and guidelines, it would seem I didn't violate a specific commandment, but my post is subject to wacking because I "called someone out"

Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:50 am to
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What is Roxyxontin? That's what my ex-friend from high school was doing when he fricked me on the rent. Dude failed out of college - eventually got his college degree - then failed out of law school after 2 years - then failed out of PhD graduate school after 1 semester. He pissed away more opportunity than most people would have in two lifetimes (and his wife and three children) all to bang opiate.


Oxycodone. The active ingredient in OxyContin. OCs and Roxis are the same drug. OxyContin is the extended release formula meant to manage chronic pain over the course of 12 hours and Roxi is the instant release formula meant to combat breakthrough pain.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:51 am to
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It's a 30mg form of oxycontin that has no time release. It's also easily crushable so people can easily insulfate it.




My ex-friend was snorting - or claimed to be snorting - his Syboxyn - and said the doctor prescribed it to be snorted. I thought he was full of crap. That's when I realized this dude was for real and he would always be a junkie
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:52 am to
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but from restricting the amount of pseudoephedrine one can buy and/or requiring the signature of the buyer.


It also made possessing certain amounts of Pseudo illegal. When the law was passed, alot of agencies began routinely checking the logs and arresting people who were smurfing.

That is what stopped local cooks.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:56 am to
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Hough by my reading of the commanments and guidelines, it would seem I didn't violate a specific commandment, but my post is subject to wacking because I "called someone out"




there are so many rules not listed.

Don't mention adblockers

Don't quote whole news articles when starting a thread then argue with the admin after he edits your post.

don't ever RA a admins post.

just three things I have been banned for

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:57 am to
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his Syboxyn - and said the doctor prescribed it to be snorted


yeah, that was a lie.

Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:00 am to
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Make it illegal to distribute drugs to minors or encourage their use by minors - illegal to drive while under their impairment - and as a locality wishes, illegal to use in public - but making it a crime for adults to use whatever they like on their own property is futile


I understand what you are saying.

But in my experience the hard drugs destroy lives and families leaving society to support them.

If you screw your life up due to drug abuse should the taxpayer be responsible for supporting you for life?
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:02 am to
Also, I've seen some really screwed up situations kids have been in due to parents being addicts.

Does a person have the right to screw up their childs life?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:05 am to
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But in my experience the hard drugs destroy lives and families leaving society to support them.



No one is saying they don't. They're saying decriminalization will reduce this occurrence, while also destroying the strength of the black market.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 3:07 am
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:07 am to
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My ex-friend was snorting - or claimed to be snorting - his Syboxyn - and said the doctor prescribed it to be snorted. I thought he was full of crap. That's when I realized this dude was for real and he would always be a junkie



Not only is he a junkie he's a stupid one that doesn't know shite about te drugs he's using.

The bioavailability is sublingual suboxone is much much greater than insufflated. Suboxone is actually damn near worthless snorted. He's essentially only actually using the portion that drips down his throat.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:08 am to
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Also, I've seen some really screwed up situations kids have been in due to parents being addicts.

Does a person have the right to screw up their childs life?



Did you miss the part about addiction and abuse going down with decriminalization?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:09 am to
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decriminalization will reduce this occurrence, while also destroying the strength of the black market.


This.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:09 am to
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Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:11 am to
Alcohol has also destroyed many of kids life.

If say a much larger portion of kids were victims of their parents alcoholism than heroin addiction.

But that's beside the fact. We already support addicts by locking them up. It's already illegal to abuse your family. Arrest people for that. People abuse their families, steal and kill people because they're shitty human beings not because they take drugs.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:11 am to
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If you screw your life up due to drug abuse should the taxpayer be responsible for supporting you for life?



well that is what jail is.

And for life? No, but rather than locking them in a jail where the drugs are easily available, put them in treatment.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:12 am to
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how can I give a private tip on a license plate of someone who I think is selling crack in NOLA?


crime stoppers.

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