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re: Would drug legalization increase the frequency of overdoses?

Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:10 am to
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:10 am to
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If you are operating a vast business throughout the US in all 50 states, and two states begin to take away at least thirty percent of your business. What would you do? Would you concentrate elsewhere and keep all your employees in place, making no changes to your business model? Or, would you move around your employees to maximize your profit?


Thats not how the Cartels operate though. The Cartel doesn't move employees around.

Cartel members act as independent suppliers in an area using the Cartel as their source of supply.

Those suppliers aren't going to quit supplying their dealers that are plugged into them just because they lost a portion of their business.






Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:11 am to
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What have I stepped over, mo?

What have you shown me to be wrong about, mo?


This is what you do, it's your game plan. You want me to get all upset and waste my time reexplaining things just so you can treat them the same way you did the first time.

You get off on this, you get off on destroying the conversation and making people continue to backtrack and work while you play your games.

This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 12:11 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:11 am to
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What I think would really help is ending the culture of entitlement that keeps many enslaved below the poverty line. Stopping the "war on poverty" would go much further than stopping the "war on drugs" IMO


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:15 am to
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Stopping the "war on poverty" would go much further than stopping the "war on drugs" IMO.


They go hand in hand. The war on drugs has left a lot of women and children without fathers.

Since the WoD's. the family had declined (all races) and one reason is the incredibly high rates of imprisonment.



Notice when the rate exploded.

You don't think this incredibly high rate, the highest in the world, has a detrimental affect on society??



USA Today

quote:

NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly 50% of black men and 40% of white men are arrested at least once on non-traffic-related crimes by the time they turn 23, according to a new study.


You don't think the problem may be systematic?? While people are in prison (on your dime) you're also paying for their dependents.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 12:17 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:17 am to
So you admit you are mograyback, right?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:18 am to
Is your solution to open the prisons and let convicted felons go free?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:19 am to
Well then the real question is, Which came first or which id root cause? I surmise that the entitlement culture developed the need for a war on drugs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:19 am to
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Is your solution to open the prisons and let convicted felons go free?



If you gathered that from my post...

Never mind, don't want to get banned.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:20 am to
I'm not an alter.

You're welcome to RA and create a thread on the help page asking to investigate it.

A shame you are the way are, it's a waste.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:20 am to
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I'm not an alter.


You gave it up in the other thread. You are mogray, are you that embarrassed by the guy?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:21 am to
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Is your solution to open the prisons and let convicted felons go free?


I think he wishes to abolish the laws that create the felony in the fist place, which also create an environment suitable for crime.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:22 am to
Will you two just get a room already?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:22 am to
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I surmise that the entitlement culture developed the need for a war on drugs.


interesting. what are you basing this on exactly other than your own biases?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:22 am to
Then why do you keep bringing up the idea that having so many felons locked up is destroying families?

I happen to think those families were already destroyed when the felon committed his crime. Prison is not the cause.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:23 am to
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You gave it up in the other thread. You are mogray, are you that embarrassed by the guy?


I gave it up? Please share.

This is my only account. You're welcome to bring it up on the help board.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:23 am to
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I'm not an alter.


quote:

You're welcome to RA and create a thread on the help page asking to investigate it.
I don't do that, mo. You should know that by now.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:24 am to
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which id root cause


Federal. Government. Policy.


BTW, the gov't allowed coke to be flown in from Nicaragua in the 80's with the Iran-Contra scandal, so they are once again at the root cause of the issue.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:25 am to
The same for you and Roger....
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:25 am to
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Federal. Government. Policy.



I'm definitely not arguing that point. FedGov is the cause of most problems in this country.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:26 am to
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Not being a hot button issue for me, I am trying to form an opinion on the drug legalization topic. The just reported death of Phillip Seymour Hoffman from a heroin overdose has me wondering: Would easier access to narcotics increase the number of ODs annually?


No.

It would reduce overdoses.

Most heroin junkies OD because they get a does that is pure heroin - when they are used to getting doses that are cut double, tripe, quadruple fold. That's right - most junkie OD's don't involve a junkie "pushing the edge" - its a junkie taking what he thinks is his average does but it winds up its a lot more than average. There's very little in all of existence more regular and predictable than a heroin junkie.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 12:27 am
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