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re: Would drug legalization increase the frequency of overdoses?

Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:41 pm to
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Could explain a drop in the use of illegal drugs. It's just too easy to get a script.




They're cracking down on the scripts though. So now people are getting hooked om Rx drugs and when they can't get those they switch to hard stuff and OD.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:42 pm to
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Since we know cannabis can't be overdosed,

Wrong.

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Can You Overdose On Marijuana?

Effect of Ingesting Too Much Marijuana --“Greening Out”

A temporary overdose of marijuana can occur and is called “greening out.” It is important to understand that a temporary overdose of marijuana will not result in permanent disability or death, but can be quite common in people who have not used the drug often. The following are the symptoms of too much marijuana in the system:

Temporary feelings of paranoia, fear and anxiety
Shortness of breath
Pupil dilation
Vomiting and/or nausea
Fast heart rate
Shaking that is hard to control, feeling cold
Disorientation or hallucinations
Hangover

This phenomenon passes on its own within minutes to hours of marijuana use. If the symptoms are severe, medical attention needs to be obtained to make sure the user is closely observed for complications. There is a chance that some marijuana obtained on the street could contain stronger chemicals and drugs that could cause a person to become very ill. In this case, someone could suffer from dangerous side effects. There is also a slight risk of using too much marijuana with underlying health conditions and suffering severe reactions to the drug.
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:43 pm to
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They're cracking down on the scripts though. So now people are getting hooked om Rx drugs and when they can't get those they switch to hard stuff and OD.


They're doing a shitty job. Illegal drug use has been declining, and prescription drug abuse is growing.

I'll bet there's less violence associated with it though.

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and when they can't get those they switch to hard stuff and OD.


I'd like to see the stats on that.

They hand that shite out like candy. If you can't get a script for what you need, you're doing it wrong.

Not sure how Rush Limbaugh got his.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:45 pm to
That link is saying that you can pass out if you smoke too much, and wake up with no permanent harm.

You've got to be kidding me.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:45 pm to
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Cartels are leaving states where they cannot control their blackmarket cashcow


So you are claiming the legalization of marijuana ended cocaine, heroin, and meth trafficking?

Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:46 pm to
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Rx drugs and when they can't get those they switch to hard stuff and OD.


Some Rx drugs are the hard stuff, sadly.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:46 pm to
No kidding, mo. The link I provided says it is possible to OD on weed.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:47 pm to
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They're doing a shitty job. Illegal drug use has been declining, and prescription drug abuse is growing.



I don't have any details or links but that's what I hear on the skreets. It's all anecdotal but I know two people that habe OD on heroin because they couldn't get the Rx shite they were used to.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:47 pm to
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Temporary feelings of paranoia, fear and anxiety
Shortness of breath
Pupil dilation
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Fast heart rate

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Disorientation or hallucinations


Been there



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Vomiting and/or nausea
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Shaking that is hard to control, feeling cold
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Hangover


Not so much.



But, once again, you're being obtuse.

Overdose on this board=deadly ingestion of narcotics.

Your definition is one that is similar to over-indulging.
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:48 pm to
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They're doing a shitty job. Illegal drug use has been declining, and prescription drug abuse is growing.

Is the shitty job not a freedom that they should enjoy?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:49 pm to
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Illegal drug use has been declining

That is not supported by the links which came up when I googled your claim. Here is just one of them.
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Illicit Drug Use Illicit drug use in America has been increasing. In 2012, an estimated 23.9 million Americans aged 12 or older—or 9.2 percent of the population—had used an illicit drug or abused a psychotherapeutic medication (such as a pain reliever, stimulant, or tranquilizer) in the past month. This is up from 8.3 percent in 2002. The increase mostly reflects a recent rise in the use of marijuana, the most commonly used illicit drug.
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Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:49 pm to
It says it's possible to pass out and wake up with no permanent harm.

I'm fairly certain we don't classify every person that passes out from a hard night of drinking and wakes up fine as a person that overdosed.

And remember how you disregarded someone else's link for having a pot add on it? Do you see the irony in this? That site represents the medical establishment that benefits from cannabis being illegal. Don't have double standards.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:50 pm to
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Some Rx drugs are the hard stuff, sadly.



I know. It's a fricking shame thatbdocs are allowed to get away with prescribing that shite as much as they do.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:51 pm to
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cashcow
=marijuana


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cocaine, heroin, and meth
is not their "cashcow".


Marijuana funds are like football in major college athletics. Football finances all other sporting activity for the school. If the school were to lose it's football team due to gov't policy, there would not be nearly as much money coming in to fund baseball, basketball, and softball.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:51 pm to
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Is the shitty job not a freedom that they should enjoy?


I think they should. I was responding to the guy who said they were cracking down.

It's the fastest growing and apparently most deadly segment of drug use.

If there's a free market for drugs, I imagine cheaper, safer alternatives will come about.

That's the great thing about freedom, and free markets, they drive innovation and lower prices.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:52 pm to
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That site represents the medical establishment that benefits from cannabis being illegal. Don't have double standards
That was just the first link that was provided when I googled. There were many more which all said it is possible to OD on weed.

Why did you ditch your previous screen name, mograyback?
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:53 pm to
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Illegal drug


is not the same as


quote:

Illicit Drug
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:54 pm to
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I don't have any details or links but that's what I hear on the skreets. It's all anecdotal but I know two people that habe OD on heroin because they couldn't get the Rx shite they were used to.


So, it's easier to get heroin than prescription drugs??? I call BS. Even illegally, they are much easier to find than heroin.

Everyone knows a dealer, some just don't know it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:54 pm to
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Overdose on this board=deadly ingestion of narcotics.

If only medical doctors agreed with the dope heads on this board, wouldn't that be just peachy keen?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:55 pm to
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Why did you ditch your previous screen name, mograyback?


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