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re: Would drug legalization increase the frequency of overdoses?

Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:19 pm to
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A city can decide not to prosecute certain drug crimes. I've seen it happen in Ak.




Did other crime rates go down in those cities?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
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Why has the price of weed gone up not down in those states since it was legalized?



Is it really that hard to figure out if you thought about it yourself?

Regulations that are present because it's still a partially illegal commodity, no matter how legal it is in a state.

All of the costs with growing it to meet these regulations.

And a number of other reasons that take diving into real thought, not worth even attempting it.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
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A city can decide not to prosecute certain drug crimes. I've seen it happen in Ak.


It is still against the law and is prosecuted in state court. So its still illegal.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
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Did other crime rates go down in those cities?


Not sure. The mayor of that city was Sarah Palin though.


Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
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Why has the price of weed gone up not down in those states since it was legalized?



Aren't you some sort of self-proclaiming economic guru?

Supply and demand is the answer.

As the supply market grows (licensing), and demand wears off to NORML levels, the prices will drop.

And it's state. Not states. Can't buy in WA til this spring.

And trust me. CO pot is much, much, much cheaper than pot in any other part of the country.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:22 pm to
It was a serious question. I'd really like to know. If you can find out I'd appreciate it.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:22 pm to
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Aren't you some sort of self-proclaiming economic guru?




Loved this.

Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:24 pm to
Why is the hot button for Libertarians always the legalization of drugs under the auspices of "freedom"?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:24 pm to
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And it's state. Not states.
Then why did you write "states"? I was responding to YOUR post and used the same word YOU did.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:25 pm to
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It was a serious question. I'd really like to know. If you can find out I'd appreciate it.


I really don't know. The WPD was much different than the other town 8 miles away. I'm not sure how seriously they kept and published crime reports.

Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:25 pm to
Why did you ditch your mograyback screen name? Were you banned?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:27 pm to
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Why is the hot button for Libertarians always the legalization of drugs under the auspices of "freedom"?


I'd say keeping people from drinking, smoking weed, snorting coke is very much anti freedom and the epitome of big government.

Libertarians are against such things.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:28 pm to
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Then why did you write "states"? I was responding to YOUR post and used the same word YOU did.



Good Lord.

He said the six states that passed hemp cultivation.

Only one state has legalized cannabis.

There is a difference between the two plants.
Posted by MichiganTiger
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:29 pm to
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Would drug legalization increase the frequency of overdoses?


Yup...already...legal drugs vastly outnumber 'illegal' drug OD deaths...so...dare ya go.


Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:31 pm to
You said the price of pot has gone up in states.

I said cartels are disappearing from states.

I then said the official price has not risen in WA, but it will in the spring, due to the simple concept of supply and demand.

Cartels are leaving states where they cannot control their blackmarket cashcow (Maryjane).

Violence, theoretically, should drop in those stateS as well, as pot (the number one cash crop in America and the most profitable drug dealt) will now be regulated and taxed, deriving the criminality and violence associated with the black market.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:31 pm to
LINK

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Depressants, opioids and antidepressants are responsible for more overdose deaths (45%) than cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and amphetamines (39%) combined. In the United States, the most deaths used to take place in inner cities in African-American neighborhoods, but they have now been overtaken by white rural communities. The same trend can be seen in the rates of hospitalization for substance abuse and emergency hospitalization for overdoses. Of the 1.4 million drug-related emergency room admissions in 2005, 598,542 were associated with abuse of pharmaceuticals alone or with other drugs.

By survey, almost 50% of teens believe that prescription drugs are much safer than illegal street drugs—60% to 70% say that home medicine cabinets are their source of drugs.

In 2006 in the United States, 2.6 million people abused prescription drugs for the first time.


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A 2007 survey in the US found that 3.3% of 12- to 17-year-olds and 6% of 17- to 25-year-olds had abused prescription drugs in the past month.

Prescription drug abuse causes the largest percentage of deaths from drug overdosing. Of the 22,400 drug overdose deaths in the US in 2005, opioid painkillers were the most commonly found drug, accounting for 38.2% of these deaths.


Could explain a drop in the use of illegal drugs. It's just too easy to get a script.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 10:33 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:33 pm to
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He said the six states that passed hemp cultivation. Only one state has legalized cannabis.
NO HE DIDN'T. He wrote:
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Colorado and Washington are doing just that.

Cartels are disappearing in those states, and both are lobbying the FEDS to back off.

Now, butt out, mo.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38440 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:35 pm to
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Libertarians are against such things.
Do you live in a sub-division with covenants?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:35 pm to
Since this thread is asking would legalization increase overdose.

I think it would be good to ask the question, would the legalization of cannabis cause a decrease in the use of drugs that can cause an overdose?

Since we know cannabis can't be overdosed, if it did decrease the use of drugs that cause overdose then overdoses would go down with legalization.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134965 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:37 pm to
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I said cartels are disappearing from states.

You said cartels are disappearing from Washington and Colorado, specifically. Those states. Washington & Colorado.

Drugs have effed up your brain.
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