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Will the courts allow the players to be paid

Posted on 1/10/18 at 1:50 am
Posted by Sweet daddy
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 1:50 am
A decision will be ruled on in San Francisco should collages pay players for athletic services .
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 1:53 am to
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A decision will be ruled on in San Francisco should collages pay players for athletic services .


What happens when the football players make more than the rest of the student athletes?
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 1:59 am to
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What happens when the football players make more than the rest of the student athletes?


Kids may give up other sports they have a future in to ride the pine and get paid for football. But in reality you will have to pay them all (all sports).

What happens when players who don’t play make the same as players who do? Do the Leonard Fournettes get an agent and complain they are worth more than a backup kicker?
Does this lead to players demanding pt incentives for monetary reasons?

What about only a handful of ADs being in the green as it is after football money pays for 20 other sports. You want every D1 program paying equal, or an even more unfair recruiting advantage for the top dogs? What if we just made it a 32 team D1 where players get paid and.. oh wait.

What about these big TX, FL, and Cali High school programs raking in the cash and buying million dollar stadiums. Those kids could have an after school job instead of “making the school money.” When does it become more than playing the game you love?

Where does the NCAA state no one can make money off of football for 3 years by the way? Pretty sure the NFL is the one saying you can’t enter their league for 3 years. Go to Canada if you want... No one gives a flying frick about “minor league” football without the university affiliation though.

Outside of title IX, which is enough in itself, this just has shite show written all over it. College football is something good though (for the most part) so it’s about time we ruin it
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 3:46 am
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16807 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:14 am to
If they pay players Alabama will win ever Championship for ever.

Ole Miss will be good

it will not be fair if it allowed.
Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:17 am to
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What about only a handful of ADs being in the green as it is after paying for 20 other sports


Yea, I think P5 players should get paid and I highly doubt there's only of "handful" of AD's making a profit.TV and Playoff money has doubled and in some cases tripled over the last 10 years.Hell,you just hired a DC for $2.5 million per year.

EACH ACC team made $6.3 million just off the CFB playoff/bowl payout and the total playoff payout was $549 million.

I'm not talking a huge amount but I would raise the COA across the board to 10k a year and eliminate ALL Pell Grants for athletes.Absurd that tax dollars subsudize
P5 CFB
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:22 am to
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I highly doubt there's only of "handful" of AD's making a profit.TV and Playoff money has doubled and in some cases tripled over the last 10 years.Hell,you just hired a DC for $2.5 million per year.


You realize what Athletic departments spend? Golf team cost LSU a million last year

Athletic departments that make more than they spend still a minority

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The expenses generated by operating athletics programs continued to exceed the revenue they produce at the vast majority of Football Bowl Subdivision schools in 2014, continuing a trend seen in recent years, according to a new NCAA Study.

Only 24 FBS schools generated more revenue than they spent in 2014, according to the NCAA Revenues and Expenses of Division I Intercollegiate Athletics Programs Report
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The median FBS school spent $14.7 million to help subsidize its athletics department in 2014, up from a little more than $11 million in 2013.


So do you want to eliminate other amateur collegiate sports and make the NCAA minor league football farms only, or reduce the D1 schools to around an NFL number?

I’m up for the latter, but to pretend all these FBS schools are rolling around in money is ridiculous. A lot of schools (almost all) will fight it, not being able to survive as athletic departments without the revenue that comes with being attached to these big time fanbases.
These schools aren’t nfl franchises with an owner sitting around fattening his bank account. They are Athletic departments with a lot of non profit sports to support providing opportunities for student athletes across the board


NCAA finances 15-16 season
^ Another look at expenses

In the PAC12 Washington and UCLA are in the top 30 nationally in terms of gross revenue, Washington lost 3mil and UCLA didn’t make a dime.
Those football players are getting an expensive education for free though (well over 6 figures) on top of cash stipends, most wouldn’t even meet admission standards as regular students and be given the opportunity to buy that education

Cry me a river. Canada is right up the road, and arena league paychecks are scattered all across the states. Their choice, and they typically choose better coaching, access to top facilities, better platform to showcase talent to the NFL, and free a education. Not to mention a hell of an experience.

The thing is even if the voodoo were worth a shite if it’s not my school I’m just cheering for the saints. Who cheers for a minor league baseball team?
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 4:25 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45699 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:22 am to
I'm all for it under one condition. They must bank it until they graduate. No degree, no pay. As simple as that. The NFL money will still be there for those that leave after three years but they won't get the cash from the University if they leave before graduating.
Posted by chickenpotpie
Member since Aug 2013
1161 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:22 am to
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I'm all for it under one condition. They must bank it until they graduate. No degree, no pay. As simple as that. The NFL money will still be there for those that leave after three years but they won't get the cash from the University if they leave before graduating.


That's a really good idea.

I would also support allowing players to be paid a set amount per autograph. But to keep certain schools *cough* Alabama *cough* from just buying an obscene amount of autographs themselves, they will all have to be sold through an official NCAA exchange. And they wouldn't be able to just autograph 10,000 pictures. They only get paid for the number of autographed memorabilia that was sold to individual consumers & no bulk purchasing would be allowed. Combine this with HubbaBubba's idea, and I think it would be acceptable.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13493 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:54 am to
They are being paid.
Free coaching.
Free medical.
Free room.
Free training.
Free nutritionally supervised meals.
Free tuition.
Free books and supplies.
Free tutors.
Free advertising.
And at Baylor, free white women!
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 7:08 am to
Notre Dame has already said they will drop to FCS rather than pay players. It is going to be interesting to see what the outcome of this is. If a large number of schools follow suit, FBS could end up being the victim. Imagine a scenario in which actual athletically inclined students suit up for the old alma mater instead of the fastest, strongest, and stupidest from every urban ghetto America.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 7:17 am to
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Kids may give up other sports they have a future in to ride the pine and get paid for football. But in reality you will have to pay them all (all sports).


What about racial quotas? Will whites get adjusted 40 times?
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7617 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 7:24 am to
sure, pay em 1k per 3 hr game and take away their athletic scholarships.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41642 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:05 am to
Paying college athletes is a terrible idea and it will result in so many unintended negative consequences including ruining a sport that so many people live to watch.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98699 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:08 am to
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If they pay players Alabama will win ever Championship for ever.


Both parts of this are pretty much already happening.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37407 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:14 am to
This is going to end women’s collegiate and men’s olymipc sports as the schools will cut all sports that lose money. The only sports left will be football, some basketball, and some baseball
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2635 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:21 am to
Most P5 departments are making a killing they just use funky accounting to make it not appear that way. $2 million for coordinators and $10 million yr coaches almost has me agreeing
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25909 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:33 am to
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25909 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:41 am to
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This is going to end women’s collegiate and men’s olymipc sports as the schools will cut all sports that lose money. The only sports left will be football, some basketball, and some baseball


I would partially agree with you. It will dramatically cut down the number of collegiate football programs (currently 744) across the US. It will consolidate the number of FSB schools from 128 to probably 75 to 80. FCS schools from 125 to 30 or 40 and eliminate Div II, III, and NAIA football schools completely.

The savings will shift towards Basketball & Baseball and other sports where the athletic numbers are smaller. It will definitely have an adverse impact on women's and other non-revenue producing men's sports as there will a substantial reduction in sports at Universities across the US except for most of the P5 Conference schools.



Think about these numbers if the NCAA is forced to pay players because there will substantial anti-trust issues associated with the limiting of payments to players.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9223 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:47 am to
Then you have the research students that do great things for universities that would deserve to be paid as well at this point. They work on research projects brought in by the govt and large corporations and help the university make money as well. a ruling to pay players would wreak havoc on colleges. Many would likely just kill sports all together.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25909 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:55 am to
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Then you have the research students that do great things for universities that would deserve to be paid as well at this point. They work on research projects brought in by the govt and large corporations and help the university make money as well. a ruling to pay players would wreak havoc on colleges. Many would likely just kill sports all together.


True but I suspect you will see a major transition from brick & mortar universities to an even greater emphasis on online educational teaching by the big universities to shed themselves of overhead thus allowing the research students to be paid as well.
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