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re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7 on 6/11/21 at 8:49 am to Powerman
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Acting like what? You posted a bunch of tweets and screen shots that give us very little data
Some people don't have the skills to do it themselves.
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by NC_Tigah on 6/11/21 at 8:50 am to omegaman66
quote:The possibility or the fact?
This has been known for awhile now.
If it's the latter, go ahead and cite the study.
Seriously, there may be something out there I'm not aware of. If you've seen it, bring it.
I'm not taking sides in this thing. Just trying to keep the discussions factual. My suspicion is we will find rare cardiac side effects. But they are rare enough that TTBOMK, none has been definitively linked to a vaccine.
I noted the Israeli study. Here is a peer-reviewed piece which hasn't even gotten to publication yet. i.e., as current as it gets. It will appear in the Journal of Pediatrics in the future
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Trials of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccination included limited numbers of children so may not have detected rare but important adverse events in this population. We report seven cases of acute myocarditis or myopericarditis in healthy male adolescents who presented with chest pain all within four days after the second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccination. Five patients had fever around the time of presentation. Acute COVID19 was ruled out in all 7 cases … This report provides a summary of each adolescent’s clinical course and evaluation. No causal relationship between vaccine administration and myocarditis has been established.
Recently the news media has highlighted reports of myocarditis after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination involving United States (US) military patients and patients from Israel
Post-immunization myocarditis is a known rare adverse event following other vaccinations. ...
The Israeli cohort identified a male predominance with an incidence of 1/20,000 (men aged 18 to 30 years old). However, a conclusive causal link to vaccination has not been confirmed at this time....
Additionally, two recently published European case reports describe myocarditis after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination in a 56-year-old man with previous COVID-19 and a 39-year-old man with no history of COVID-196,7. This report summarizes case histories of 7 healthy male adolescents 14 to 19 years of age who developed acute myocarditis or myopericarditis within 4 days after receiving the second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, none of whom met criteria for MIS-C. All 7 patients were vaccinated in April and May of 2021 and have been reported to VAERS
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Myocarditis and myopericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination appear rare. As of May 23, 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that 1,560,652 people <18 years of age have completed a two-dose series of COVID-19 vaccine17. Of these, 652, 758 adolescents received their second dose more than fourteen days ago17. Currently, the PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is the only COVID-19 vaccine authorized for children <18 years of age in the US. We urge physicians and healthcare providers to consider myocarditis in the evaluation of adolescents and young adults who develop chest pain after COVID-19 vaccination. All cases of myocarditis in patients with recent COVID-19 vaccination should be reported promptly to VAERS.
Our case series has inherent limitations. We compiled cases through personal communications between colleagues rather than using a systematic surveillance system to identify cases. It was not possible to exclude all alternative etiologies including idiopathic and other infectious etiologies, and there was not a systematic diagnostic evaluation for other viral etiologies. Cardiac biopsy was not performed on any patients, because they were all clinically stable during hospitalization.
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re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7 on 6/11/21 at 8:53 am to the808bass
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Let us all remember that the VAERS is the equivalent of Facebook. Anyone can add to that record. In theory, it is possible that 5,000 people reported the deaths of persons as related to the vaccine that is in fact wholly unrelated to the vaccine.
Let us remember that your average person has no clue this system is out there for them to report their symptoms. Let us also consider that a percentage of people will experience side effects and not associate them with having received the vaccine and thus will not think to report them.
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by NC_Tigah on 6/11/21 at 8:56 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
quote:Actually the opposite is more likely.
Let us also consider that a percentage of people will experience side effects and not associate them with having received the vaccine
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by lsupride87 on 6/11/21 at 9:01 am to NC_Tigah
frick the media
Im looking at purely the numbers
Im seeing a Myocarditis rate of .005% in the vaccinated population. That rate appears to be less than that of the general population
So is this just media bullshite stirring the waters? Sure it should be looked into like everything else, but how is this "concerning"?
Im looking at purely the numbers
Im seeing a Myocarditis rate of .005% in the vaccinated population. That rate appears to be less than that of the general population
So is this just media bullshite stirring the waters? Sure it should be looked into like everything else, but how is this "concerning"?
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by NC_Tigah on 6/11/21 at 10:03 am to BaldEagleHey
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22,459 suicides, murders and car accidents were deemed covid deaths.
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by BaldEagleHey on 6/11/21 at 10:14 am to VoxDawg
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I believe the accepted CDC value of pure COVID deaths was around 4% of the total deaths trumpeted on the news constantly.
That would put the real death count at around 25k. To put it in perspective, that's about half of as many automobile accident fatalities, annually.
CDC now says 5%
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by ultratiger89 on 6/11/21 at 10:22 am to stout
meh, in consequential collateral damage
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re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by imjustafatkid on 6/11/21 at 10:27 am to LSUROXS
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IDK the vaccinated cruise ship testing positive for COVID is funny shite!
Kind of like the 9 vaccinated New York Yankees who tested positive.
quote:It's truly amazing that people who seem to consume this stuff all day every day still don't know what VAERS is like the OP and posts screenshots of people stating "factually" that over 5k people died and linking it to taking the vaccine because VAERS says so.
Acting like what? You posted a bunch of tweets and screen shots that give us very little data
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re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by ImaObserver on 6/11/21 at 10:50 am to BaldEagleHey
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Why is the vaccine acting like this?
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I believe the accepted CDC value of pure COVID deaths was around 4% of the total deaths trumpeted on the news constantly.
That would put the real death count at around 25k. To put it in perspective, that's about half of as many automobile accident fatalities, annually.
CDC now says 5%
CDC Caught Cooking the Books on COVID Vaccines
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It's not a vaccine. It is a protein factory shot.
It IS a vaccine, and you ARE a moron.
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A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.
It does EXACTLY that.
Your argument reminds me of the morons who insist that the USA is not a Democracy because it's a Republic. It's both.
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by WhiskeyPlease on 6/11/21 at 11:05 am to stout
, some are claiming they are becoming magnetized now after taking the vaccine LOL
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by Powerman on 6/11/21 at 11:08 am to tigafan4life
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Next they gonna start calling it Trumps vaccine if things continue to go bad for the vaccine.
If things continue to go bad? The vaccine rollout has been highly successful.
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7 on 6/11/21 at 11:09 am to Powerman
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The vaccine rollout has been highly successful.
Cool, now do the long term side effects!
re: Why is the vaccine acting like this?Posted by VoxDawg on 6/11/21 at 11:20 am to BaldEagleHey
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CDC now says 5%
Even then, hardly cause for putting our entire economy on ice for nearly a year and a half and adding $10T to the deficit.
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