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re: Why is it unpopular to say I’m tired of Trump’s stupid comments and he looks low energy?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
You are frustrated because you haven’t been able to sway anyone to see things your way.
It has frustrated you so much that you’ve used the term cult often question intelligence, and constantly try to define those that disagree with you.
The truth is that it’s your shortcoming. You aren’t persuasive. And you don’t understand your opposition enough to figure how how to impact their position.
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:25 pm to OceanMan
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Which options exactly?
The only 2 major guys are hated by MAGA, Massie and Paul. MAGA isolated and attacked libertarians like Amash who left instead of dealing with the insanity.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Look up "cult of personality". It's extremely popular in authoritarian societies/dictatorships.
Oh look, you are pivoting to a different term. So principled.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:28 pm to moneyg
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You are frustrated
No
Unless you're referencing a sick dog I'm dealing with.
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because you haven’t been able to sway anyone to see things your way
That's not necessary
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that you’ve used the term cult often question intelligence
Intelligent people are subject to falling in with cults, baw.
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You aren’t persuasive
When speaking to an echo chamber? Sure.
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And you don’t understand your opposition enough to figure how how to impact their position
But I do. I have learned just how hard of a job deprogrammers have when dealing with former cult members.
There are posters who have seen the light, though. Like Bunk Moreland.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:28 pm to OceanMan
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Oh look, you are pivoting to a different term.
It's the literal same process/terminology
It's just one form of cult behavior. There are different types of cults, baw.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:30 pm to OceanMan
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Oh look, you are pivoting to a different term. So principled.
"Cult of Personality" is precisely what MAGA is. Its been called that here for years.
There are some responses in this thread that validate that ideal.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is discussing his opponents. We're discussing the population of putative support.
This distinction really doesn’t matter in answering the question “why is it unpopular to say you are tired of Trump?”
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No
It’s obvious you are. Your emotion is bleeding in every post. How many posts have you made in this thread? I may go count.
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That's not necessary
it’s the basis of your frustration.
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Intelligent people are subject to falling in with cults, baw.
The use of cult is probably the lowest brow if rhetoric there is. It’s pathetically dumb. But I really think you’ve convinced yourself of it.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:33 pm to OceanMan
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This distinction really doesn’t matter in answering the question “why is it unpopular to say you are tired of Trump?”
Only if you assume that the population of this message board mimics society at large.
Hint: it does not.
Hint: the majority of posters make it a pro-MAGA/Trump echo chamber, largely
Hint: there are almost no Democrats/Leftists on this board
Again, the context is simply not difficult to understand.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:34 pm to moneyg
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A cult of personality, or a cult of the leader,[1] is the result of an effort which is made to create an idealized and heroic image of a glorious leader, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. Historically, it has developed through techniques of mass media, propaganda, spectacle, the arts, patriotism, and government-organized demonstrations and rallies. A cult of personality is similar to apotheosis, except that it is established by modern social engineering techniques, usually by the state or the party in one-party states and dominant-party states.
Its a description, not an indictment.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But not the connotation you replied to.
I believe it was meant to be inflammatory and was stated just after you labeled Trump supporters as a cult (or cult-like behavior, 2+2=4, etc).
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:36 pm to moneyg
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It’s obvious you are.
But I'm not?
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Your emotion is bleeding in every post.
What emotion?
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How many posts have you made in this thread?
I don't know, but that has literally nothing to do with frustration or emotion (and I used literally correctly).
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it’s the basis of your frustration.
The frustration that doesn't exist and is supported by make believe?
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The use of cult is probably the lowest briw if rhetoric there is.
Why?
MAGA relying so much on these sweeping generalizations without any defense or justification has become so sad. I mean I get that you have to try to frame arguments to limit actual discussion, but it's getting pretty absurd.
The use of cult is so sporadic historically that it probably has rarely been discussed within the levels of rhetoric
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Each party has one leading (by a mile) candidate. It is a binary choice. U
there are more than 2 parties
There are only two parties that can field a candidate that will ever win. The other parties are defacto splinter groups from the main two parties. This is not Germany, we do not elect coalitions. When it comes to the United States President, we will elect Donald John Trump or Joseph Robinette Biden.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:39 pm to OceanMan
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I believe it was meant to be inflammatory
Not inflammatory. Only overly emotional and/or defensive people and cult members would see it that way.
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and was stated just after you labeled Trump supporters as a cult
I didn't do this. My exact quote:
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This demand of unadulterated worship is a big reason those people are called cult members (b/c that's literally what cults do).
Explaining why behavior gets labeled a certain way is not labeling the behavior.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:41 pm to Gus007
uhhh--availability of goods and services, more people working,
now he and Biden are to blame for the inflation and higher interest rates
I refuse to accept that the best of the republican candidates is Trump and given there are more independents than republicans I seriously doubt Trump could win if we were the nominee. Biden is the weakest democrat in a hundred years and he beat Trump.
now he and Biden are to blame for the inflation and higher interest rates
I refuse to accept that the best of the republican candidates is Trump and given there are more independents than republicans I seriously doubt Trump could win if we were the nominee. Biden is the weakest democrat in a hundred years and he beat Trump.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This isn't true. I largely don't discuss my personal opinion on here, but it doesn't stop people from imputing their perception of it in response to my posts all the
time.
There is simply no way the person with the most posts on a message board isn’t sharing their opinion. There is a term for this too, it’s called narcissism
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Yes. Objective analysis.
Dude, it is simply your opinion. “It won’t do anything” is not objective analysis. It’s a definitive statement that could never really even be measured.
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but I'm glad you clearly understood the simple point.
And here is the veiled criticism I mentioned previously. Again, please tell us more about projection.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't know, but that has literally nothing to do with frustration or emotion
FORTY THREE and counting.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The only 2 major guys are hated by MAGA, Massie and Paul.
Are you talking about Rand Paul? MAGA hates him?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:46 pm to SirWinston
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You're not wrong but he's going to be the nominee. What choice do we have but to support him?
Support the guy, I do, but for the life of me I do not get the “it’s Trump or I’m not voting” crowd AT ALL. THOSE people are cultists.
Trump is my guy. DeSantis would be my guy if he were going to be the nominee. shite I’d even vote for Chris Christie. Anyone on that stage is better than Biden or Newsom.
I really wish Trump would cut it out with the name calling though.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:48 pm to OceanMan
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There is simply no way the person with the most posts on a message board isn’t sharing their opinion
I'm talking the political board in the era of Trumpism/MAGA
There is such a reliance on dishonest/bad content, I try to bring reality to the bullshite. Then people accuse me of supporting their perceived opposition b/c I was correcting bad content/media. Happens all the time with Brietbart, TGP, etc.
The outlets are very dishonest and it's important to counter that dishonest with reality.
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And here is the veiled criticism I mentioned previously.
I told you. I don't back down from criticizing individuals.
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