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Why is it controversial to say “Russia and others hacked and interfered”

Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26570 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:28 pm
It’s true that multiple countries plus individual hackers have interfered, hacked, trolled, etc.

China, India, Israel, North Korea, even Great Britain and Germany according to some analysts.

Why the outrage?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:29 pm to
Because it was her fricking turn!!!
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:30 pm to
Dude stfu, you guys literary started millions of threads that said nothing happened, now we know for a fact and you change the narrative.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11712 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:30 pm to
This board would rather take it on the chin by Putin than give libruls an inch
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:31 pm to
I think because the entire intelligence community and the Senste Intelligence committee determined it was Russia. Not Russia and other randos
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76124 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:31 pm to
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China, India, Israel, North Korea, even Great Britain and Germany according to some analysts

And yet...the media isn’t interested in these. No one is out to get Russia. They’re out to get trump. He isn’t going to delegitimize himself by acknowledging the retarded witch hunt. Liberals want us to believe the KGB forced the rust belt to vote trump.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62355 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:31 pm to
They all do it . We do it. It didn’t affect shite. No one thought, “ hey, I like that Trump guy because the DNC is so damn corrupt, with all those factual leaks”. It just didn’t happen...
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:31 pm to
Because saying that has become synonymous with saying Trump is an illegitimate president.



Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26570 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:32 pm to
There are hundreds of published articles and incidents of other non-Russian hacking incidents.

Are you willfully stupid?
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:34 pm to
I want to know where the line is drawn on “interference”.

Is planting fake news stories actually “interfering”? If so, is it “interfering” when Americans do it domestically? Surely we can all agree our country has plenty of homegrown trolls?

We live in a free information society. It’s the responsibility of the people to educate themselves and to establish what is legitimate and what isn’t.

An actual winning position on this would be for one party to attempt to elevate discourse and have actual informed opinions. Painting trolls and fake articles as “interfering in an election” is laughably disengenious
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:34 pm to
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Are you willfully stupid?


Is that even debatable??
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63346 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:34 pm to
The Trumpkins are incapable of seeing the world in any way other than right vs. left. It’s on their mind 24/7
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:35 pm to
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China, India, Israel, North Korea, even Great Britain and Germany according to some analysts


Why don't you provide some backup documentation showing the level and degree with which the Russian Federation has. Also, any American president defending them and saying they didn't would be nice too.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76124 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:36 pm to
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The Trumpkins are incapable of seeing the world in any way other than right vs. left. It’s on their mind 24/7

The lack of self awareness amongst progs is shocking
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19630 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:36 pm to
The DNC got hacked because they were morons and fell for phishing attempts that most people's grandparents would see through. That happened. That does not equal "The election was hacked", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. They tried to hack the rnc too and couldn't. Don't know what the Dems are more outraged that a hack occurred than they are about the contents of those emails. Ie the Dems fixed their own primaries
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26570 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Dude stfu, you guys literary started millions of threads that said nothing happened, now we know for a fact and you change the narrative.


Nothing happened that would even make the evening news in past elections.

But sure, if you want to hang your hat on a Podesta phishing scheme and Russian Facebook trolls, then go ahead.

In the meantime, the Obama White House was hacked, likely by China, in 2014, and John Kelly’s personal cell phone was hacked in 2017.

So “and others” is real.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41290 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:38 pm to
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The lack of self awareness amongst progs is shocking


Especially vor. He posts like an absolute a-hole towards conservatives on a daily basis yet wants to say what he just said. Wtf is wrong with that guy
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
Bogata
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:39 pm to
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China, India, Israel, North Korea, even Great Britain and Germany according to some analysts.


Where’s the link that all these countries were meddling in the 2016 election?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26570 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:42 pm to
The Russian hacking was juvenile and lightweight compared to other hacking that has happened.

The DNC is a private non-governmental organization. It was hit with a phishing scheme.

Our actual government, the FBI, CIA, White House, military, NSA undergoes hacks and attempted hacks daily.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

I think because the entire intelligence community and the Senste Intelligence committee determined it was Russia. Not Russia and other randos


What did Russia do? Buy some Facebook ads?
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