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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:39 pm to DelU249
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Why do Gun Control Advocates Always Rely on Misleading the Public?
rules for radicals 101: the ends justify the means
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:43 pm to DelU249
They also know that the gun ban in Australia has been a complete failure. The Australians even admit this. One not so shocking number to note, an estimated 750,000 "assault rifles" were supposed to be turned in during the Australian buy back. Yet only 280,000 were. The same will happen here. Hell we've already seen similar occurrences here in Connecticut when only a small number of the rifles were registered. The lefts agenda has NOTHING to do with public safety but has everything to do with changing the American culture and gaining control.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:44 pm to WeeWee
That's what Liberals do best is lie to get there agenda across. 
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:47 pm to Bayoubengal420
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That's what Liberals do best is lie to get there agenda across
I think that train runs both ways.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:51 pm to DelU249
Why so paranoid? -PB Libs.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:59 pm to DelU249
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handguns (98.5% of gun crime)
some people would call this misleading as they are more concerned with what percent of murders are related to what gun.
its kind of like choosing the statistic that best gets your point across like:
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the statistic of "gun crime"
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when referring to the results of gun bans in other countries.
England isnt a lawless country...
not trying to take a side here.. just saying that
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8. They promote data intentionally misconstrued to support their agenda, and are completely unmoved by the mounds of relevant, unbiased data that makes their agenda look silly. Statistically, they just want to look at this one piece that alone and with no context, helps them, and ignore everything else
goes both ways
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:00 pm to DelU249
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Why do Gun Control Advocates Intentionally Mislead the Public?
It's the democrats specialty to mislead the public.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:01 pm to WeeWee
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rules for radicals 101: the ends justify the means
....kinda like "Obama is going to take away your guns" ?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:01 pm to DelU249
Logic and facts don't help their end goal, which is to disarm the American public.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:02 pm to a want
A Want, have you bought ammo recently? Even practice rounds are expensive and hard to find now.
Part of this is because of a plausible marketing scheme to create a sense of scarcity to increase profit margins. People see ammo for sale and buy two or three times what they need. That's not to be confused with a real top-down political message that plays on fears....which is what we have with typical gun rights activists.
Part of this is because of a plausible marketing scheme to create a sense of scarcity to increase profit margins. People see ammo for sale and buy two or three times what they need. That's not to be confused with a real top-down political message that plays on fears....which is what we have with typical gun rights activists.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:03 pm to DelU249
quote:That's one of my favorites.
30 caliber clip dispense in half a second.
Kevin says hey...
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:04 pm to DonChowder
That is a good one...
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:05 pm to dewster
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A Want, have you bought ammo recently?
No. Why? Is there a shortage?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:05 pm to DelU249
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Why do Gun Control Advocates Intentionally Mislead the Public?
Authoritarian Statists can never tell the truth about the extent of their imagined control and effects on people's lives; if they did, they'd be rejected outright...if not hanged in the street.
"You can keep your doctor. Period." It's called bait and switch. Book it...nigh 60% of the populous could not name the Three Branches of our Government...much less figure out which politicos are telling the truth.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:07 pm to petar
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some people would call this misleading as they are more concerned with what percent of murders are related to what gun
When you're pushing a ban of mostly rifles, and handguns constitute 98% of crimes committed with a gun, I'd say it is pretty god damn relevant.
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England isnt a lawless country...
I'm not saying it is. I'm saying it is just now reaching pre gun ban homicide rates, after a decade and a half of sky rocketing statistics. England and Wales also do not include homicides that do not result in convictions. So they're homicide rates, crime rates, are all lower than reported, completely unreliable, etc. The one thing we can discern is the unbelievable jump in every crime statistic post ban. Meanwhile, in the U.S. ...
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:10 pm to petar
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goes both ways
not really, in most other debates, they go back and forth, this can be explained this way, this that way.
In the gun control debate, the proponents literally just tune it all out.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:20 pm to DelU249
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When you're pushing a ban of mostly rifles, and handguns constitute 98% of crimes committed with a gun, I'd say it is pretty god damn relevant.
maybe they aren't banning rifles because of gun related crimes, but because of the mass killings that occur. I get where you are coming from but there are two sides to every coin
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England and Wales also do not include homicides that do not result in convictions.
I don't really know if this is true. a quick google job does not seem to indicate this as true. maybe i was scanning the info too quickly however. Granted even if true, why wouldn't you look at a comparable statistic like death rates?
he does take into account of unsolved murder rates.
Im really not trying to get in on this argument though just saying the misinformation goes both ways.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:23 pm to DelU249
quote:I think you are confusing gun control advocates with politicians trying to appeal to them in the weakest way possible.
1. They, for the moment, are completely unconcerned with handguns (98.5% of gun crime)They say they've had enough of the violence, then why be so philosophically inconsistent. They are targeting the segment of gun owners that is overwhelmingly law abiding. Why do they refuse to target criminals?
I would like gun registration, and some "timeouts" for gun owners who seem to continuously have them stolen / misplaced. Beyond that I don't care what gun you own.
Also: Nuts shouldn't have access to them. I know you like the "slippery slope" argument and some people talk as if they are really worried about the 2nd amendment rights of war vets with PTSD, but hearing voices / having trouble with reality should give you a reasonable "time out" as well.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:23 pm to petar
because they are liberals and that's what they do
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