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re: Why do Dems hate the oil industry?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:50 am to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:50 am to Errerrerrwere
because Climate Change is a fricking lie.
if the world was going into an ice age and someone suggested we burn all the fossil fuels we could to heat up the globe, you'd say their fricking crazy. sure, it might change the environment a little but not enough to stop what was already happening.
the earth is greener now than 35 years ago. because of elevated carbon levels. which also, surprise surprise make plants more resilient to drought, which wards off famine. it's almost like the earth has a way to return to equilibrium.
climate change is a hoax, but i guess that makes me a "climate denier" because i see what a fricking grift it is, just like wearing a mask stopping a fricking aerosolized virus.
they like it because the libs never met a tax they didn't want to foist upon the masses, and it won't be the elite bearing the burden. and all the globohomos want it so they can set up a new financial market based around selling "carbon credits" to the same suckers that bought into it.
if the world was going into an ice age and someone suggested we burn all the fossil fuels we could to heat up the globe, you'd say their fricking crazy. sure, it might change the environment a little but not enough to stop what was already happening.
the earth is greener now than 35 years ago. because of elevated carbon levels. which also, surprise surprise make plants more resilient to drought, which wards off famine. it's almost like the earth has a way to return to equilibrium.
climate change is a hoax, but i guess that makes me a "climate denier" because i see what a fricking grift it is, just like wearing a mask stopping a fricking aerosolized virus.
they like it because the libs never met a tax they didn't want to foist upon the masses, and it won't be the elite bearing the burden. and all the globohomos want it so they can set up a new financial market based around selling "carbon credits" to the same suckers that bought into it.
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:58 am to supatigah
quote:Boom/bust cycles is the nature of markets. Whether it's the same mistakes or new ones each time, that's just what free-ish markets do. It has been happening for a lot longer than 48 years, and it'll keep happening for a lot longer still.
I am 48 and can remember 5 busts in my lifetime. Three catastrophic. The hope is we learn our lessons and don’t make the same mistakes again
Obviously that's why diversification is so important, especially when it comes to something as critical as energy.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:20 am to diddyMax
quote:Of course it will find equilibrium. No one is worried that the earth won't survive. Few are even worried that humanity won't survive. It's just a matter of what the cost will be if we keep kicking the can down the road. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, right?
it's almost like the earth has a way to return to equilibrium.
I don't think you quite understand the difference in time scale between:
quote:and:
if the world was going into an ice age
quote:
the earth is greener now than 35 years ago. because of elevated carbon levels.
Best we can tell, it usually takes ~1,000 years for the earth to warm (or cool) "naturally" as much as it has in the last 50. Is that at all concerning to you?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:58 am to diddyMax
quote:
they like it because the libs never met a tax they didn't want to foist upon the masses,
It’s not just taxation and power, there’s a profit motive in the climate change industry. Climate change has made loads of liberals exceedingly wealthy.
Just like the race industry.
And now we can add COVID to the list of lucrative opportunities created for greedy and cynical Leftists.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:01 am to Korkstand
quote:
Best we can tell, it usually takes ~1,000 years for the earth to warm (or cool) "naturally" as much as it has in the last 50. Is that at all concerning to you?
There's always another fricking world is falling no snow on kilimanjaro we need to act now study that kicks the can down the road on the climate apocalypse. and they all have shite methodology too. and the studies and scientists who run counter to the globohomo climate change narrative are suppressed.
most of the others are fricking sell outs. you'll never get research grants if you say it's not real or it's not a big deal, much in the same way the ADL, SPLC and NAACP will always find more racism lying around.
i don't believe a fricking thing the "experts" say because i know a con when i see one. if you can't see this same class of "experts" has been behind the global shutdown/mask patrol then you'll never wake up.
why would the obama's buy a 12 million dollar oceanside mansion if the climate was going to change so bad, wouldn't they be worried? these people spent 8 years around the "brightest" in the world and they're not scared of it.
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It's just a matter of what the cost will be if we keep kicking the can down the road
if you feel so strongly then lead by example. why not donate a tithe of 10% of your wages and buy carbon credits for china and third world african nations?
you really are a fricking sucker aren't you?
i don't expect you to ever realize it though. people don't like to wake up to the fact that they've been lied to and then they have to start questioning everything.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 2:43 am to diddyMax
quote:Clearly you've got a lot of anger built up inside about this.
diddyMax
quote:What about my post led you to believe that I feel anything "strongly"? I did as I always do, which is to be as rational as I can be about things. That never works out around here, though.
if you feel so strongly then lead by example. why not donate a tithe of 10% of your wages and buy carbon credits for china and third world african nations?
I will lead by example in that my next vehicle will very likely be an electric truck. I will also get solar panels and battery storage eventually. But my main motivation here is not to save the world. Rather, it's to get me and my family a little closer to self-sufficiency, security, preservation. It's the same reason many people keep a vegetable garden, or own firearms. It's just a little bit more freedom.
If doing that means the world has to burn a little bit less fuel, great. Because even if you don't think that burning shite and putting shite into the atmosphere isn't a terrible thing, surely it can't be good, right?
quote:No.
you really are a fricking sucker aren't you?
quote:Have you ever stopped to wonder if maybe you are believing lies?
i don't expect you to ever realize it though. people don't like to wake up to the fact that they've been lied to and then they have to start questioning everything.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:01 am to Lsudx256
quote:
by Lsudx256
Because it ends our dependency of foreign counties they can personally get rich off of.
Not sure why so many downvotes on this truism???
Posted on 10/18/20 at 3:33 am to Errerrerrwere
They don't. The hate prosperity and people being well off if we are talking about the politicians. If the dumb voters then it is because they are brain washed.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:09 am to Errerrerrwere
The answer to the OP is simple. They hate it because it’s easy to hate. Dems hate the industry because it gives them a “moral high ground” upon which to stand. They capitulated to the far left militant wing of the environmental movement 30+ years ago- for the same reason as the Dem party of 2020 is on the fence about embracing/ rejecting ANTIFA.
Because it boils down to votes. Dems operate from a who can we “lend an ear to” and still not piss off the crowd mentality. If we’re being honest, it’s an easy ground to stand on if you’re making an argument... as the OP’s subject suggests GOP’ers begin a debate on the subject by having to defend the very subject. GOP’rs support it because it’s a proven economic solution in that it sustains/creates jobs/wealth... in other words it’s the free market’s current solution to supply human’s energy needs. 120 years ago the market’s solution to moving from point A to B was a horse. Today it’s an internal combustion engine.
Because it boils down to votes. Dems operate from a who can we “lend an ear to” and still not piss off the crowd mentality. If we’re being honest, it’s an easy ground to stand on if you’re making an argument... as the OP’s subject suggests GOP’ers begin a debate on the subject by having to defend the very subject. GOP’rs support it because it’s a proven economic solution in that it sustains/creates jobs/wealth... in other words it’s the free market’s current solution to supply human’s energy needs. 120 years ago the market’s solution to moving from point A to B was a horse. Today it’s an internal combustion engine.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:00 am to Korkstand
quote:
Clearly you've got a lot of anger built up inside about this.
Credit where credit is due, I concede my blood boils at the idiocy of the masses. You are correct sir.
quote:
What about my post led you to believe that I feel anything "strongly"? I did as I always do, which is to be as rational as I can be about things
You do feel strongly because of your inherent attachment to not follow rationality (which leads to no other conclusion than that global climate change is a fricking mind control/wallet control hoax).
If you want to get an electric truck good for you. Good luck going long distances should the need arise. And if you're deluded enough to believe that the earth wasn't raped for the cobalt and other rare minerals please be my guest. Please put your "I love strip mining!" right next to your "Jorgeson 2020" sticker.
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Because even if you don't think that burning shite and putting shite into the atmosphere isn't a terrible thing, surely it can't be good, right?
This is not a thing since of emission standards and smog. I don't care about Carbon Dioxide and I won't apologize for breathing out.
quote:
Have you ever stopped to wonder if maybe you are believing lies?
Yes.
That's why I stopped believing the following:
- That climate change was something "real" and I should care about it
- Same same just Wuhan Flu
- That racism is a problem in this country
- That transgender is a real thing
- That homosexuality is normal
- That certain religious groups ethnically white are somehow impervious from any criticism due to their "victimhood" yet can continuously in the media and Hollywood criticize whites for their "whiteness"
- That McCarthy was somehow wrong
- That egalitarianism is evil
- That holding onto your ethnic and cultural identity is somehow alright unless you are a White Christian Male in which case bend the knee and let your son have his makeup done by a bunch of h0m0 drag queens bigot
- That we should readily open our borders to the Muslim horde that worship a child molester warlord because it's really a religion of peace
- That we should continue to pay out tribe (NOT OUR NATION, IT DOESN'T WORK UNLESS IT IS A TRIBE... IF YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN FIRST, THEN YOU DON'T BELONG TO THE TRIBE) money to other tribes while we foot the bill
- That we should continue to accept individuals in OUR TRIBE that not only refuse to assimilate and align with being part of our trib above all else.... no, we should celebrate them denying us from their identity and elevating their previous tribes
NO frickING NATIVE TRIBE TOLERATED THAT shite. WE HAVE A CANCER THAT IS ERODING THE FOUNDATIONS OF OUR SOCIETY. UNTIL YOU ACCEPT THAT AND REJECT THE GLOBOHOMO NARRATIVE YOU WILL BE PART OF THE PROBLEM
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:48 pm to TchoupitoulasTiger
quote:
The answer to the OP is simple. They hate it because it’s easy to hate. Dems hate the industry because it gives them a “moral high ground” upon which to stand
Well said
Posted on 10/18/20 at 12:54 pm to cwill
quote:
Funds for O&G are dated and limited.
Oh yeah try and live without oil and gas. Do it for a week I dare you. Report back on how living in the Middle Ages is.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 1:01 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Best we can tell, it usually takes ~1,000 years for the earth to warm (or cool) "naturally" as much as it has in the last 50. Is that at all concerning to you?
How long have we been accurately measuring this? “Best we can tell” may not be correct at all.
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