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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:49 am
Posted by The Baker
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Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:51 am to
It's been explained on the news all weekend.
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:52 am to
Good lord you are dumb. Please keep making our tragedy your political fodder.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:52 am to
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It's been explained on the news all weekend.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:55 am to
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Why didn't the Houston Mayor call for evacuation?


It's been explained over the entire weekend.

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Seems easier to project the chaos onto Trump I guess.


Who has done this?

I've seen nothing but praise for the Federal response.

Well, in all honesty, Brian Williams was trying his hardest to place blame on Trump for the response Friday Night, before the hurricane had even made landfall. His own reporters were having none of it, though.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:55 am to
Good god just shut up.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:56 am to
Who watches the news on the weekend? Some of us are busy partying, being irresponsible, and being heroes rescuing people.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:56 am to
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Please keep making our tragedy your political fodder.
Agreed. This is bad form.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 7:57 am to
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are busy partying, being irresponsible


Is that an oxymoron?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:00 am to

He probably remembers the Alamo.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:11 am to
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I missed it.


Houston mayor explained it pretty well, at least that's how it seemed to me.

I know this because I was thinking to myself "why didn't they evacuate. Oh. mayor is a dem? This outta be good. He should have evacuated, and will now seem like an idiot."

After his explanation... I was thinking "oh.. that makes sense.".

Posted by The Baker
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Posted by Brazos
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:15 am to
How do you evacuate one of the largerst cities in the nation anyway?
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Posted by gumbeaux
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:21 am to
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How do you evacuate one of the largerst cities in the nation anyway?



Exactly. Traffic would have been at a standstill when the floods came. Can you imagine that scenario?
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Posted by EKG
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 8:51 am to
Our freeways and interstates are elevated.
They're still underwater.

People disproportionately die in cars from floods, so evacuation is not as straightforward a call as it seems. Putting millions of people on the roads at the same time would not only have been a logistical impossibility, it would've created certain death traps.

Houston went that route12 years ago, evacuating for Hurricane Rita (more than 3 million people from south and southeast Texas set off on one of the largest evacuations in U.S. history). Traffic jams stretched across hundreds of miles over two days. Many people ran out of gas. Dozens died from accidents and heat-related illnesses--all before Rita even made landfall.

Mayor Turner:
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“You cannot put, in the city of Houston, millions of people on the road…That is dangerous,” he said in a press conference Sunday. “If you think the situation right now is bad — you give an order to evacuate, you create a nightmare."

Harris County Judge Emmett:
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“When we have hurricanes, we know who to evacuate, because you have a storm surge coming, and we have that down to a very fine art. In this case, we have a rain event. Unless you know where the rain is going to fall, we don’t know who to evacuate.”

While ordering a hurricane evacuation is common, telling residents to flee a rainstorm is rare, if not unprecedented. “We’ve had three major rain events in the past two years. This is now the fourth," Emmett said.

Procedures will be reviewed.
Undoubtedly policies will change/be added.
But the city is far from the point of casting blame.
Right now everyone's just trying to rescue those who need help, save the homes of those who are being threatened, and weather this rain that never seems to stop.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 9:23 am to
Just to add, everyone had the same information regarding the rain, individual decisions could have been made, and, in fact, some people did leave. I hate the fact that these tragedies are used as political footballs. It's not the mayor, governor or president's fault. I think Trump coming here is just an unnecessary waste of city services and time right in the middle of the goddamn crisis. And he's doing it because he feels the pressure and he's into making a show of things. Come next month once the city has its feet back on the ground.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 9:27 am
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