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Why Can't Democrats/Liberals Define What a "Living Wage" is?

Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7480 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:45 am
AOC and Amazon are having a little pissing contest over wages and AOC is invoking the all mighty "Living Wage" talking points:

AOC Wants Amazon To Pay a Living Wage

I've heard this phrase used for decades and to my knowledge this party has never defined what that should be. You would think that something that is so fundamental to a party would have defined parameters. Why can't they?

"Living Wage" is the biggest pile of bullshite that weak minded liberals eat up because they think flipping burgers for 25 hours a week for the rest of their lives should afford them an income to support a lifestyle for this entry level job.

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Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2946 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:47 am to
Because, like with most of their platforms, they haven't decided what it means yet.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:47 am to
Because nothing costs the same across the country it obviously differs. But general consensus is 15 an hour. It's just smart politics. Using a term "living wage" probably sells well.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:48 am to
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But general consensus is 15 an hour.


And then after it's 15, it'll be 17. Then 20. Then 25.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43317 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:49 am to
A living wage is simply a wage that allows you to have the necessities in life.

Food, a nice house in a desirable hip city, cell phones, TV, internet, nice clothes, a car or two that's not too old, money for social activities, etc.

Is that too much to ask?
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:50 am to
Empty words to fill empty minds.

Here are a couple more "social justice" and "comprehensive immigration reform".
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:50 am to
Well yeah part of that is inflation


We've been stuck at the same minimum wage forever. It's foolish to think it'd be easy or feasible for democrats to suddenly get it to 25 when they can't even get it to 15.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:50 am to
Things should cost what they cost. The US government should stop subsidizing wages via welfare, and the wages demanded in the market would cover living expenses.

When the government covers those living expenses, wages no longer have to.

AOC is hard R retarded.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:50 am to
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Here are a couple more "social justice" and "comprehensive immigration reform".





You're so close to getting it
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:51 am to
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Well yeah part of that is inflation


We've been stuck at the same minimum wage forever. It's foolish to think it'd be easy or feasible for democrats to suddenly get it to 25 when they can't even get it to 15.




Minimum wage is just a bad union negotiator. Eliminate it, or just let it be so low that businesses can't even think about bringing it to the table or people won't be so stupid to take a minimum wage job and still be eligible for benefits.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101182 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:52 am to
Apparently, it’s enough money for someone to be able to have everything they desire.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57011 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Why Can't Democrats/Liberals Define What a "Living Wage" is?
Same reason they can’t tell you why the “minimum wage” should be $15– it’s all based on “muh feels” rather than any reasoned objective analysis.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43317 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:54 am to
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Apparently, it’s enough money for someone to be able to have everything they desire.




Well ya. It says in the Constitution we have a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" Everyone should be paid enough to be able to pursue their happiness.

Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4681 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:55 am to
“Common sense gun laws”
Reproductive health
Affordable housing
Trigger words
Safe spaces

They’ve got a million of them
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4929 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:55 am to
. . . or what Affordable Housing is.
. . . or what Medicare for All is.
. . . or what Food Security is.
. . . or Reparations, Gender Equality, Income Inequality, Net Neutrality, Climate Change . . . ad infinitum.

They promise solutions for problems that they can't define. That's what they do. All you really need to know is . . . their promises are fueled with your resources.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:55 am to
quote:


A living wage is the minimum income necessary for a worker to meet their basic needs.[3] Needs are defined to include food, housing, and other essential needs such as clothing. The goal of a living wage is to allow a worker to afford a basic but decent standard of living.[4] Due to the flexible nature of the term "needs", there is not one universally accepted measure of what a living wage is and as such it varies by location and household type.[5]


quote:

S Webb and B Webb, Industrial Democracy(Longmans 1902)

Ryan, John A. Living Wage Macmillan, New York 1906 OCLC 39046728




wiki Living Wage

Living wage is objectively calculated by costs of things in your location. Anacoco, Louisiana is not going to have the same type as NYC, New York.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:57 am to
quote:

We've been stuck at the same minimum wage forever.


So.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:58 am to
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They promise solutions for problems that they can't define. That's what they do. All you really need to know is . . . their promises are fueled with your resources.



As a person on the left, in some cases they do have answers for these policies but they're so complicated and they do such a horrible job of selling them that they don't work.


Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57011 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:59 am to
quote:

We've been stuck at the same minimum wage forever
Who is “we”? My wage has gone up steadily over the last two decades.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8315 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:03 am to
Due to the ‘never have enough’ principle, a living wage is always just a little bit more than the current wage.
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