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re: Why are Moronials such whiny losers that blame all of their failures on Boomers?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 10:49 am to Griffindawg
Posted on 2/28/22 at 10:49 am to Griffindawg
quote:yet here you are doing your HOLLERING BOY ROUTINE about the absurdity that people my age are holding people your age down?
There’s a high probability that I make more than your highest year of earnings. Just based on what I know and how you type on here.
THAT is absurd.
As absurd as thinking how I post here or how much I make or dont make (of which you have no clue) is some kind of factor.
HOLLERING BOY it is then? and then fake all the points.
THUGs are a joke
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 10:52 am to David_DJS
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You're victimized by markets?
No, bad government intervention into the market. The highest expenses for would-be young professionals just so happen to be the most highly regulated and government subsidized industries in America: healthcare, education, and housing. These are each the furthest from “free market” that one could get.
My point is not that boomers are “holding millennials down”. It’s that they fail to see that the situation facing younger folks is far different than what they faced, that the problem lies with government policy, and that change is needed in that policy because the status quo is untenable. It is not enough to only oppose bad ideas. Good ideas must be used to combat those bad ideas.
Too many boomers, who claim to be for small government, don’t see or feel the problems that millennials experience daily, and assume that they are largely made up by the gaslight media. The reality is the problems are very real, and the progressives are trying to use that legitimate dissatisfaction to push for some seriously damaging stuff that needs to be opposed at all costs. Simply saying no is not enough. We need reform.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 10:57 am
Posted on 2/28/22 at 10:57 am to joh burroh
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I worked my way through college.
How much did it cost and when did you go?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 10:59 am to DeathValley85
quote:Moron millenials are too stupid to make irrefutable facts. All HOLLERING BOYS, ALL THE TIME.
The irony here is you’ve ignored irrefutable facts
But its not even that - it is the sheer absurdity of what ignorant trash you are for expecting to be handed something besides what life hands you. That is not how humanity has ever worked.
You position yourselves as what you are lazy and ignorant
Why does everything shitty seem to emenate from your generation?
Same reason. TOO MANY IGNORANT HOLLERING BOYS
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:12 pm to DeathValley85
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The irony here is you’ve ignored irrefutable facts in this thread better than most leftists. You and AOC have much in common.
No. I make the argument that your facts are a lot like how cops kill black men for sport. And like the Left, you project like hell - but you identify as a conservative.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:31 pm to kingbob
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No, bad government intervention into the market. The highest expenses for would-be young professionals just so happen to be the most highly regulated and government subsidized industries in America: healthcare, education, and housing. These are each the furthest from “free market” that one could get.
135 million millennial + GenX voters
70 million boomer voters (and dropping)
You're bitching about yourselves.
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My point is not that boomers are “holding millennials down”. It’s that they fail to see that the situation facing younger folks is far different than what they faced, that the problem lies with government policy, and that change is needed in that policy because the status quo is untenable. It is not enough to only oppose bad ideas. Good ideas must be used to combat those bad ideas.
Did you know we actually tried price controls in the '70's? Do you think the 15% inflation and 18% mortgage rates boomers had to persist through had no government involvement?
We fail to see the situation facing younger folk as far different than what we faced because it's not (broadly speaking).
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Too many boomers, who claim to be for small government, don’t see or feel the problems that millennials experience daily, and assume that they are largely made up by the gaslight media. The reality is the problems are very real, and the progressives are trying to use that legitimate dissatisfaction to push for some seriously damaging stuff that needs to be opposed at all costs. Simply saying no is not enough. We need reform.
You sound like a Reaganite.
Anyway, I've been surprised by a lot of what's been posted in this thread. Ten years ago (or so) when the "millennials will be the first generation to not do as well as their parents" BS started showing up in the media I thought it would be like the "cops kill hundreds of unarmed black men every month" narrative, and not find much traction. I was wrong on both counts. Not that everybody and every generation doesn't confront challenges, but the reality is that you guys will live a better/more comfortable life than your parents, I have no doubt - because I think you guys will get it figured out politically. Oh, and if it wasn't evident, cops really don't hunt black men for sport.
If I was one of you guys, I'd worry more about convincing my fellow millennials to stop electing moronic Leftists than making sure boomers are aware of how disadvantaged some group in America is, because outside of Native Americans, it's all just whiny BS.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:00 pm to David_DJS
I’m a libertarian. I’m calling for de-regulation, abolition of federal entitlement programs, reduction in license and permit requirements, cracking down on government sanctioned monopolies and cartels, massive tax overhauls, etc. I’m not pushing for price controls, you dolt. Not every young person is a Marxist.
So many young folks are a lot more small government than they think, but every time the GOP has a chance to make a pitch to them, they double-down on alienating those potential voters with dumb social issues or by chastising young folks as “soft” rather than trying to address real concerns.
Every time I start to make headway convincing gen y and z folks to consider not voting for democrats, the older republicans do and say stupid crap that pushes those younger folks right back onto the prog plantation.
So many young folks are a lot more small government than they think, but every time the GOP has a chance to make a pitch to them, they double-down on alienating those potential voters with dumb social issues or by chastising young folks as “soft” rather than trying to address real concerns.
Every time I start to make headway convincing gen y and z folks to consider not voting for democrats, the older republicans do and say stupid crap that pushes those younger folks right back onto the prog plantation.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:06 pm to joh burroh
The biggest issue I have in all this is the fact that boomers are their parents.
I treat my mother and father, who are boomers, with respect.
I treat my mother and father, who are boomers, with respect.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:19 pm to kingbob
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So many young folks are a lot more small government than they think, but every time the GOP has a chance to make a pitch to them, they double-down on alienating those potential voters with dumb social issues or by chastising young folks as “soft” rather than trying to address real concerns.
Every time I start to make headway convincing gen y and z folks to consider not voting for democrats, the older republicans do and say stupid crap that pushes those younger folks right back onto the prog plantation.
But wouldn't a definition of "soft" be to be motivated to action more on emotion than anything else? You're describing people that understand on a logical level that they best not be electing progressives that go onto elect progressives because boomers don't respect them enough and sometimes tease them about being soft.
At any rate, we're generalizing about groups that are tens of millions large. I really don't believe the views expressed in this thread by millennials reflect the majority of millennials that are producers. I have adult kids, and they're doing well, as are their friends/colleagues. I'll tease them about being soft, and they'll tease me about having to walk 7 miles to school through blizzards - but I've never heard any of them whine like some of the guys have in this thread.
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I’m a libertarian. I’m calling for de-regulation, abolition of federal entitlement programs, reduction in license and permit requirements, cracking down on government sanctioned monopolies and cartels, massive tax overhauls, etc.
I actually believe 20-40 yo Americans will end up being a pretty conservative cohort. The millennials I know who weren't conservative 5-10 years ago are in the process of being red pilled. We all should be optimistic.
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I’m not pushing for price controls, you dolt.
I never said you were. In your eagerness to be insulted, you missed the point.
You had argued that things were different now and it was part of why your generation has it so bad - with government intervention in the 3 most important markets/industries today, etc., etc. I pointed out that this was nothing new, so you guys don't have to feel special/bad about it.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:22 pm to kingbob
quote:It doesn't help when select millennial reps, like AOC, shoot selfie vids while preparing Smoked Salmon Caviar Crostini in the state-of-the-art kitchen of her luxury DC apt, concomitantly lamenting that times are so tough she doesn't think she can have kids, and subject them to such hardship. Ridiculous crap like that doesn't settle well.
Too many boomers, who claim to be for small government, don’t see or feel the problems that millennials experience daily, and assume that they are largely made up by the gaslight media. The reality is the problems are very real, and the progressives are trying to use that legitimate dissatisfaction to push for some seriously damaging stuff that needs to be opposed at all costs. Simply saying no is not enough. We need reform.
Part of boomer nonchalance to millennial plight may also stem from knowledge that millennials are set to benefit from the largest wealth transfer in history, to the tune of $68 TRILLION over the next 25yrs or so. Hard to feel too badly for folks set to inherit that kind of bank.
But every generation dating back to the Greeks has its woes and wishes. Older generations study progressiveness of their progeny and shake their heads in dismay ... every generation, without fail. Younger generations want to do their own thing, be new, explore being different while shaking their heads at the stodgy old folks "who don't understand".... every generation, without fail.
Sometimes generational inexperience does lead to terrible decisions under guise of a novel approach, support of Communism, fascism, Nazi totalitarians, etc. I do worry millennials are on that glideslope.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:28 pm to David_DJS
They elect progressives because progressives connect with them on their issues (or at least actively pander to them) while republicans too often deny that there even is a problem, even after dozens of folks show them the problem as quantified in statistics.
Most decisions are made by the same part of the brain that controls fear, emotions, fight or flight, etc. The logic side of the brain doesn’t make all of those decisions. When it comes to politics, it is not enough to only address logic (which, with respect to young folks, the GOP rarely even does this), you have to make emotional pleas as well.
By failing to acknowledge that the problems millennials face even exist, the GOP can make neither an emotional nor a logical appeal to them. All they can do is argue against the progressive’s proposed solutions which attempt both appeals. By not even trying, all the GOP can do is slowly concede ground, and can win nothing. Why? They’re not fighting for change. They’re fighting for a status quo that’s already dysfunctional.
Most decisions are made by the same part of the brain that controls fear, emotions, fight or flight, etc. The logic side of the brain doesn’t make all of those decisions. When it comes to politics, it is not enough to only address logic (which, with respect to young folks, the GOP rarely even does this), you have to make emotional pleas as well.
By failing to acknowledge that the problems millennials face even exist, the GOP can make neither an emotional nor a logical appeal to them. All they can do is argue against the progressive’s proposed solutions which attempt both appeals. By not even trying, all the GOP can do is slowly concede ground, and can win nothing. Why? They’re not fighting for change. They’re fighting for a status quo that’s already dysfunctional.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:30 pm to SammyTiger
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How much did it cost and when did you go?
It doesn't matter how much it is and when he went. Because back then it was not cheap either.
The problem is today's kids grow up without ever having a job before they graduate high school and the parents just fall into the belief that no kid can go to school and work.
YES YOU CAN.
They simply just don't want to.
I made my daughter go the last two semesters by paying her way, rather than signing a piece of paper to go now and pay later, just to prove she could do it and she was able to do it by working and saving to pay those two semesters rather than financing.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:34 pm to kingbob
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They elect progressives because progressives connect with them on their issues while republicans too often deny that there even is a problem, even after dozens of folks show them the problem as quantified in statistics.
Most decisions are made by the same part of the brain that controls fear, emotions, fight or flight, etc. The logic side of the brain doesn’t make all of those decisions. When it comes to politics, it is not enough to only address logic (which, with respect to young folks, the GOP rarely even does this), you have to make emotional pleas as well.
Why are you posting like there are laws in the country that restrict 55 and younger from running for office?
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By failing to acknowledge that the problems millennials face even exist,
What problems, though? The made up ones, or just the normal, garden variety problems that people/families have making their way?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:39 pm to riccoar
My father literally wouldn’t allow me to work in hs. He needed me for labor on the homestead, and refused to risk my grades slipping and losing my scholarship. He went so far as to tell employers not to hire me when I was 16. Then, the Great Recession hit my senior year and all nearly all of those jobs for teens disappeared. This lack of work experience made finding internships and part time work significantly more difficult. All of this while tuition and housing increased in cost by more than 50% while I was in college despite getting a lucrative major from a “cheap” in-state school with an academic scholarship.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:41 pm to kingbob
quote:or so they assume ....
progressives connect with them on their issues
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:41 pm to David_DJS
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Why are you posting like there are laws in the country that restrict 55 and younger from running for office?
A lot of young people do run for office, often having to fight tooth and nail against the GOP Party apparatus to do so. It’s one of the reasons I serve on my local RPEC, to try to push the local GOP to endorse younger and better candidates.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:51 pm to kingbob
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A lot of young people do run for office, often having to fight tooth and nail against the GOP Party apparatus to do so.
Welcome to the real world. Entrenched/monied interests are not easy to beat back.
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It’s one of the reasons I serve on my local RPEC, to try to push the local GOP to endorse younger and better candidates.
This is great (truly mean that). We need a lot more of it, but I wouldn't worry too much about the age of the better candidate. Better is the operative word.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 2:02 pm to David_DJS
I have a bias towards younger candidates for low-level local offices because those are often used as a springboard to better positions. If you want to know how your party will do in the future, look at who’s serving on your school board, city council, etc.
Those positions are critical for building your party’s bench for future runs at bigger offices. Someone who’s in their 60’s may be better qualified for that office, but they won’t be viable for higher offices down the road, and often lack the energy to campaign door to door for themselves and others.
Think of it like a cfb coach evaluating potential transfers in the portal. For this position, do you want a senior or a sophomore? Do you need someone who can come in and do the best job possible now or someone with three or more years of eligibility left? Sometimes, situations call for either approach.
Those positions are critical for building your party’s bench for future runs at bigger offices. Someone who’s in their 60’s may be better qualified for that office, but they won’t be viable for higher offices down the road, and often lack the energy to campaign door to door for themselves and others.
Think of it like a cfb coach evaluating potential transfers in the portal. For this position, do you want a senior or a sophomore? Do you need someone who can come in and do the best job possible now or someone with three or more years of eligibility left? Sometimes, situations call for either approach.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 2/28/22 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They are the literal "were born on third" scenario.
LMAO
Yeah,pesky little things like conscription and Vietnam really put boomers "on 3rd"
Amazing that you have no concept of the opportunities afforded you and the standard of living you grew up with but yeah,we were "born on 3rd"
Posted on 2/28/22 at 2:17 pm to kingbob
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I have a bias towards younger candidates for low-level local offices because those are often used as a springboard to better positions.
That makes sense as long as you're picking between two genuinely conservative/capable candidates.
Thinking about what's been posted in this thread re: housing, why do you think there are no options (that I'm aware of) to buy more modest sized/more modest features type homes? I'd bet you a mortgage payment that if you took the first home I bought (Gilbert, AZ in 1989) - and built the same house on a lot in an outlying newish Phoenix suburb, you'd be able to build/sell it for what I paid when financial factors are considered. It seems from some of the comments in this thread this type of product isn't even out there.
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