re: Who do you think has a better shot at winning? Trump of Desantis?

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BUT the state is NOT near to turning blue!

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Yes it is. Dumb leadership by the state government brought in businesses that attract left wing professional class workers like flies on shite.

It's why I hate when these Republicans have ribbon cutting ceremonies for bringing in companies like Oracle/Tesla/Apple to Texas. All its going to do is import left wingers to work for said companies and change the political makeup of the state.

Blue states aren't stupid. It's why you don't see states like Massachusetts or Oregon opening up oil pipelines or manufacturing plants in their states. Because they know such businesses will attract right leaning workers into the state.

Republicans can no longer win a base election in Georgia. That wasn't true 8 years ago.

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Going with Desantis might not go the way people like. Trump voters aren't satisfied with the 2020 election fraud. They won't move on from Trump until he has a second term. I don't blame them.

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I just think its utterly foolish to assume every Trump voter will automatically back DeSantis.

I think DeSantis is a strong candidate, and the strongest non-Trump candidate for the GOP.

But Trump proved he could connect with that ancestral democrat vote like no other Republican ever has. DeSantis has won over Florida, but that is a state that has been moving to the right and doesn't have near as many ancestral working class democrats living there. But can he win over Ohio? Wisconsin? Pennsylvania? Michigan?

They won't let Desantis win either. The Dems cheated before and they will keep doing it again.

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Trump / Desantis 2024

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so you want to lose AND ruin the next big thing for the Republican party?

bold strategy

Because being VP gives Desantis more clout to run for POTUS once Trump finishes his 3rd term. Not to mention how Desantis changed Florida, he's also has the ability to appoint his successor as Governor in Florida. The only reason he would remain Governor is if he had ZERO ambition to go higher.

Also, those who claim Trump is polarizing are the same Democrat cucks who talked the Republicans into putting McCain as the nominee. A Republican they like, but still won't vote for.

It's Trump at the top whether you like it or not. Only way its Desantis is if Trump decides not to run.

What a difficult choice to have to make.

Between someone who has done well in one Deep South state, and someone who had no parliamentary experience at all, who showed that he could carry all the southern states and critical states like Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, i.e. of course assuming the national election is not another A.C.O.R.N.- by proxy special.

Yeah, challenging decision to have to make.

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While at the same time unable to turn out the working class blue collar worker who hates Republicans at the national level but liked Trumps message

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You do realize that you're talking to a stone wall.

DeSantis.

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It is a losing strategy focusing on the Karen suburban mom vote and less on the Hispanic vote.

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Why do we think Desantis loses hispanic support?

just stay on Trump's message with a positive spin.

DeSantis is who you want as a great contrast against either Dementia Joe or the Sleazy Hoe Harris.

A bright and youthful Governor of a major US state against an elderly man clearly in over his head that belongs in a nursing home or a whore who sucked all the correct penises on her way to the top and still looks down on you with her grating cackle.

Trump laid the groundwork for America First policies to take root inside the GOP but he lacked the skills, competency and institutional knowledge to be a transformative President. That's where big Ron DeSantis comes in.

What I like about DeSantis is that he does not shy away from using the power of the state to advance right wing causes and is very muscular about it. The era of limited Government is over.