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Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:34 pm to mouton
You guys think because he’s not Trump Desantis has a better shot but you’re 100% wrong. Desantis will have no friends, he’ll face the same resistance Trump faces only he’s not as popular. Desantis will become Trump according to the media and the propaganda establishment only he won’t have Trumps resume as president. Don’t take the bait, I like Desantis but he doesn’t have a better shot at winning than Trump.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:41 pm to Giantkiller
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Speaking of bullshite, remember when the GOP ran a known adulterer who talked about 'family values', and probably actually smelled like bullshite since he was an alleged diaper fetishist? But that was your guy, right?
I love how every time I point out that you weren't smart enough to detect the bullshite from the democrat party hack, you get pissed off and have to resort back to me voting for **GASP** a conservative republican that was aligned with my political and financial interests with the proven track record to support that, like it's some big own.
Winners make policy, loses go home and are forced to live with said policy. I'm smart enough to understand that, you're not.
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Now I assume you're a Ron guy because all you know how to trust are career politicians.
Yes.
Because Trump has had two bites at the presidential apple and that's by definition a "career politician" and Trump is someone who ran against the "It's his/her turn crowd when they were running Hillary, Jeb and yes, Dementia Joe.
We told McCain and Mitt to frick off after they lost 2008 and 2012.
Trump is a spent force that was right for the moment that was 2016 but not for 2024. Trump laid the groundwork for America first conservatism but he lacked the skills, competency, institutional knowledge and discipline to be a transformative President.
I see Ron DeSantis having those important qualities.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:49 am to Sentrius
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I love how every time I point out that you weren't smart enough to detect the bullshite from the democrat party hack, you get pissed off and have to resort back to me voting for **GASP** a conservative republican that was aligned with my political and financial interests with the proven track record to support that, like it's some big own.
Me? You stalk me like an ex-girlfriend on this site constantly and you think pointing out how not only did the GOP think Vitter was the guy, they then can’t stop stepping on their own dicks to keep literally the only democrat in the south from winning re-election is some kind of cheap move?
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Because Trump has had two bites at the presidential apple and that's by definition a "career politician" and Trump is someone who ran against the "It's his/her turn crowd when they were running Hillary, Jeb and yes, Dementia Joe. We told McCain and Mitt to frick off after they lost 2008 and 2012. Trump is a spent force that was right for the moment that was 2016 but not for 2024. Trump laid the groundwork for America first conservatism but he lacked the skills, competency, institutional knowledge and discipline to be a transformative President. I see Ron DeSantis having those important qualities.
Shitter Vitter was a career politician you pinned all your Louisiana dreams on, so it’s only natural you’d gravitate to Desantis. You’ll probably be the only dipshit standing in line to reelect Bill Cassidy. Just curious, who does Bill Kristol say to vote for? You can probably read all about it in your copy of National Review.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:20 am to Giantkiller
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You stalk me like an ex-girlfriend on this site constantly
Or you constantly pitch softballs that's easy to slam out of the park like you complaining about politicians saying things you want to hear and ignoring your own goal over voting for a corrupt liberal democrat that lied about about being a conservative blue dog and you swallowed those lies with no trouble at all.
Btw, your stalking claim is cute.
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you think pointing out how not only did the GOP think Vitter was the guy, they then can’t stop stepping on their own dicks to keep literally the only democrat in the south from winning re-election is some kind of cheap move?
Is that what you tell yourself to make you look better and feel comfortable with yourself when you still voted for the political twin of Edwin Edwards and a national democrat that was always going to be an obvious liar who's only goal was to frick over conservatives as a pure tyrant?
You're responsible for your own vote and you only. Blaming other parties and groups for an individual choice you made is, well, weak and the mindset of a simpleton.
If I regret my vote for someone, I will straight up say it with no hesitancy at all.
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Shitter Vitter was a career politician you pinned all your Louisiana dreams on, so it’s only natural you’d gravitate to Desantis.
I was smart enough to exercise political discipline and vote for the candidate that's most aligned with my political and financial interests, regardless of my misgivings about his extracurricular activities.
You? You made a decision that was based on pure emotion and on mere unenforceable promises from a hard liberal that was always entirely opposed to your political views and worldview.
But of course it's expected for you to equate Ron DeSantis with a different republican you despise. There's a word for people like that, it's RINO.
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You’ll probably be the only dipshit standing in line to reelect Bill Cassidy.
I'm looking forward to voting for a conservative replacement in 2026 for Bill Cassidy.
Before 2021, I wasn't that impressed with Cassidy and felt he was just nothing more than a seat warmer.
Also, I took Cassidy's impeachment votes and statements as a signal he's not running for reelection and that tracks with the term limits pledge he made back in 2014. Guess he was indeed serious about sticking to that pledge. But no matter, that pledge is going to be enforced anyway, with or without his consent.
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Just curious, who does Bill Kristol say to vote for?
If I was listening to that guy, I would be voting democrat like you did in 2015 up and down the ticket.
But that's not me because I'm a legit conservative so yeah, I have no idea what Kristol is saying now. Never paid attention to him in the first place.
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:09 am to Sentrius
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That's the draw of personality appeal.
Cult of personality at this point.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 6:56 am to mouton
Desantis would destroy anyone running against him next election. I would rather have Trump doing fund raisers and leading the Republican party.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:45 am to YouAre8Up
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Desantis would destroy anyone running against him next election. I would rather have Trump doing fund raisers and leading the Republican party.
this
All Democrats hated Trump not all Democrats hate Desantis especially the ones that moved from up north to Florida. Desantis gets shite done and doesn't do stupid shite on twitter. Desantis 2024
Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:30 am to mouton
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Who do you think has a better shot at winning? Trump or Desantis?
DeSantis
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 8:31 am
Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:42 am to mouton
Neither, they don't run the voting machines.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:50 am to mouton
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I like Trump but I think Desantis has a much better shot. He is less polarizing than Trump and the media will go after Trump much harder than before. What say you?
DeSantis and it's not even close. And for multiple reasons:
1. He does better with suburban voters and will not underperform down-ballot R's in the majority of the suburbs like Trump did in 2016 and 2020. In 2016 and 2020 there were over 5 million voters who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but didn't vote for Trump. DeSantis won't leave that many votes off the board.
2. He does better with women voters, and has nowhere near the "baggage" that Trump does with women.
3. He's a significantly better debater and is far more articulate. He also won't be old as frick in 2024.
4. He does better with younger voters, as young voters in Florida like DeSantis because he has done some good things with the environment.
5. He won't surround himself with conspiracy nuts (Wood and Powell) who will grift and actively encourage voters to boycott a future runoff.
How anyone could choose Trump over DeSantis is beyond me. Ask yourselves why the Lincoln Project, MSNBC, CNN, etc. are all egging Trump on to run again. The answer? Because they know he won't win and they want to manipulate our primary and have us choose him over DeSantis, and they are terrified of the latter.
It's really that simple. DeSantis is a slam-dunk. If we want to win, he's our guy. If we want to lose, Trump is our guy. If we nominate Trump, we'll not only be handing 2024 on a silver platter to the Dems but 2028 as well. We'd be trotting out DeSantis as a potential sacrificial lamb to take out an incumbent, which historically doesn't work out well. DeSantis is a shoe-in for 8 years in the WH.
Do we want to win or lose? I want to win, and I hope you all do as well.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:58 am to Lsuhoohoo
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If DeSantis is the guy, the media and dims will try to pull the same tricks but I just don't see them creating the same aura of polarization around DeSantis that Trumps lightning rod persona brings. A candidate will never be more hated by the left than Trump.
You are spot on. The media has tried to do this by smearing him and they have failed at every turn. Unlike Trump, DeSantis doesn't fall into their traps. What he does is quite beautiful. He calmly destroys their lies and propaganda with facts and then proceeds to call them out for the activist frauds that they are.
DeSantis' tactics resonate with people who aren't even Republicans and doesn't turn them off. He told Ben Shapiro that tons of people have moved to FL from NJ, NY, etc. over the last year and a half, but unlike the CA transplants in TX, these northerners are voting Republican and approve of DeSantis' job. They've even told him they don't agree with everything on the GOP platform, but they are tired of having their businesses and freedoms destroyed and are now voting Republican. He is able to articulate why those people moved away (Dem policies) and how the GOP platform allows them to prosper.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:05 am to goldennugget
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Lots of cuckolds in this thread swallowing fake media narratives
Nah, more like a few Democrat plants like yourself who are trying to get us to back Trump over DeSantis. You're doing this because you want Trump to be the nominee because you know he will lose and you're terrified of DeSantis and know he will win.
It's so predictable. Your friends in the liberal media (Lincoln Project, MSNBC, CNN) have been egging Trump on to run again because they are terrified of DeSantis.
Would it kill you Democrat plants to at least not be so predictable?
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:10 pm to RammerJammer91
Although the South and southeast as well as some other metropolitan areas may be in love with Desantis, the rest of the nation says De-Who? They know and love Trump and will follow him all of the way.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:18 pm to winkchance
A candidate named fraud just said it will be running for the presidency.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:22 pm to YouAre8Up
Well until that little thing called fraud.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:31 pm to mouton
Neither have a shot. America is now blue until we collapse
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:45 pm to deltaland
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Neither have a shot. America is now blue until we collapse
That's not true. I went over each state county-by-county and in the swing states precinct-by-precinct. The Dems are maxed out with their votes. We are not. What should scare the Dems is that in both 2016 and 2020 there were over 5 million voters who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but didn't vote for Trump. These voters are primarily found in the suburbs and are Republican and unenrolled/Independent voters who historically vote Republican. They can't stand Trump, due to his "baggage" and rhetoric, and have split tickets the last 2 cycles. They are why we've had at least 50 US Senators, lost very few House races, and kept/added state legislatures in 2016 and 2020 meanwhile Trump went 1/2 in the EC and 0/2 in the PV.
I know several of these people. They'd vote for literally any Republican other than Trump, and many of them like DeSantis and would vote for him if he is the 2024 nominee.
Democrats know this and are terrified because they know DeSantis will gain the overwhelming majority of these votes. I know several of these Dems who want us to nominate Trump again. They're scared of DeSantis and know he will win.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:59 pm to RammerJammer91
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These voters are primarily found in the suburbs and are Republican
A lot of those "republicans" in the suburbs are never coming back to voting GOP.
The GOP strategy should be to register as many low propensity white working class voters as possible and get them to the polls and there are 42 million of those people that are not registered to vote.
If Trump had the sense to know that the suburbs were in full revolt over him, he would've directed his campaign to try and register at least 10% of those WWC and get them to the polls. If that happened, Trump wins the rust belt by margins with breathing room.
What the Trump campaign failed to understand is that their gains with latinos and other minorities did not matter as there was not enough of them in the rust belt and Georgia to offset their losses with in the suburbs and thus they had to double down on the WWC.
White working class people are Trump's base and the campaign did not acknowledge that.
But no, they spent 35 million on a BLEXIT that was never ever going to happen and indeed did not happen and saw Trump do several points worse with white men compared to 2016.
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