Which founding fathers would have been most / least MAGA

James Monroe was definitely the most outwardly America First. He pretty much said “frick everyone else. We have to look out for ourselves.”

That mindset didn’t change until Teddy Roosevelt amended the Monroe Dictrine with the Roosevelt Corollary, saying we’d also look after our neighbors in the Western Hemisphere when it benefited us.

I want to read more about him

I don't know much about the second tier guys but probably whichever one of those that the Brits think was the biggest shite stirrer/bomb thrower.

Sam Adams maybe? He was a Jeffersonian.

Here you go, from his wiki page:

"Supporters of the Revolution praised Adams, but Loyalists viewed him as a sinister figure."

sound like anyone you know?

Alexander Hamilton would have liked Trump.
Thomas Jefferson would have hated him.
I think Washington would have respected him, but probably not have supported him.
Ben Franklin would probably have been good friends with him from their days as pimps banging euro trash whores
Madison would probably have completely hated Trump's personality, and would have not been the biggest fan of his politics, but not hated him as much as Jefferson.
Monroe and Jackson would be MAGA AF
Adams would be Trump's biggest political enemy (created the first deep state).

All of the founding fathers would have been completely disgusted with Hillary.

George gosh darn Washington. End of thread.

Jackson was a bad mofo but he was not a founding fathers.

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Every US POTUS of all time would have been ashamed of Trump regardless of party.

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Trump's policy views have been shared by multiple presidents in our history...whether that is a good or bad thing is up to you, but it is flat out wrong to say that trump's worldview (nationalism, protectionism, against establishment, etc) is the first to inhabit the oval office.

If you are arguing more along the lines of conduct...maybe so, but even then things aren't so clear. There have been some very nastu presidents in our history (harding, lbj, andrew johnson).

You are giving presidential history way too much of a pass if you think trump is below them all. Is he more open about his crassness? No doubt, but that is because there is by an order of magnitude more ways to get your word out now than in the past.

If twitter was invented so every president could use it, you'd see some crazy stuff on jackson's and teddy's feed.

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The Donald. This guy has numerous, serious flaws.

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List them.

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List them.

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General Bonespurs. Some poor schmuck had to go toVietnam instead of The Donald because he could afford to get a doctor to say he wasn’t fit. It was bullshite then and it’s bullshite now.

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You wouldn’t have been able enough to go to Vietnam...

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Well, I did. One year. In the infantry. 1969 to 1970. And, just because I have no respect for Trump because of his status it does not mean I condone Clinton’s actions or, to a lesser extent, GWB. (Note I did not refer to GHWB as you did since he was, in fact, a combat naval aviator in WWII.)

If you go back and look at my posts, you’ll find I have consistently been offended by and attempted to expose people who represent themselves as veterans who are not.

The Donald has other flaws too. The only thing I can say is he’s better than having Hillary Clinton as President of the United States.