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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?

Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Nguyener
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
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until a certain point the fetus cannot survive without the woman's body.


And a child cannot survive without a guardian. Can we just kill a kid if it bores us or we don't like it anymore? Why not? It can't survive on its own, it is a drain on society, and it is well within the parents rights to kill it, right? It is their kid and their choice.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
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like all too many black women, she believes


Who are you guys talking about now?

Because if it's me, I'm 100% neither black nor a woman.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
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So are you actually a doctor?
No. She's some fricking lab tech
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74799 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
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In a sense it did, by not properly equipping her with the knowledge and tools to prevent pregnancy and not properly allowing for a situation in which raising a child would be beneficial.



I was told that abortion is practically a rite of passage for all strong, independent women, and that having had an abortion practically enrolls you in a distinguished sisterhood.

You're painting the picture of a woman who's quite literally too dumb to function in modern society, so she should be able to murder her literally ill-conceived offspring as a get out of jail free card.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:12 pm to
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In a sense it did, by not properly equipping her with the knowledge and tools to prevent pregnancy and not properly allowing for a situation in which raising a child would be beneficial.


Your Communism is showing....

The Government is not responsible for holding peoples' hands and stopping them from being incredibly irresponsible, shitty beings....
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21093 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:12 pm to
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Another person who doesn't know what "viable" means in this context!
Aha, now it's context...

Keep moving those goalposts, baby killer
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5333 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:12 pm to
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What would you call that scenario?


Pregnancy
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:12 pm to
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According to this post, you think the human life cycle start date and the latest acceptable date for an abortion are not the same thing?


Correct. I think the question revolves around viability, which isn't the same thing as life cycle.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:12 pm to
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Yeah, who would misinterpret an analogy for 20 pages then later claim it was intentional...oh..you?

I can't help that you can't read.

By the way.

Thanks for completely gutting your whole thread a couple posts up.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:12 pm to
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I pointed out WHY it was a bad analogy


You still haven't done that, you've only misinterpreted the original analogy because you refused to answer the question.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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21093 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:12 pm to
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No. She's some fricking lab tech
A TB Tester. My dog could do that job and probably better.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Provided we make exceptions for rape/incest/mother's health/incompatibility with life I have no problem with third-trimester bans.


So you have no problem with third trimester bans as long as we create enough loop holes that it's not a ban anyway for what reason?

What about the mothers bodily autonomy? Why does she suddenly lose this at the last three months?
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:19 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
79767 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Do you view laws against murder as an infringement on somebody’s bodily autonomy?

It restricts the right of somebody to do something to someone else.


But if you only view the fetus as a non-person, then it is merely property.

Just like a slave in 1860 was mere property, or someone's pet dog is today.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83475 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:13 pm to
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So are you actually a doctor?
No. She's some fricking lab tech
That got her arse handed to her by a real Doctor in the recent past.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:13 pm to
Just to show it again

Bama says yes to abortion bans in 3rd trimester
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Provided we make exceptions for rape/incest/mother's health/incompatibility with life I have no problem with third-trimester bans.

Well shite

That pretty much guts your whole thread.

Why does the woman suddenly lose "bodily autonomy" in the last 3 months?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14978 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:13 pm to
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fricking lab tech


ah well what school did you go to BamaAtl? I want to ensure I never have a lab tech that went to the same school as you.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21093 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Because if it's me, I'm 100% neither black nor a woman
Then quit acting like it. If you are a male, oh Lord
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14978 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:14 pm to
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That got her arse handed to her by a real Docotr in trhe recent past


I want the back story!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:14 pm to
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You still haven't done that, you've only misinterpreted the original analogy because you refused to answer the question.

The woman cannot be the person who is forced by the state to give up a Kidney because the state didn't put the baby in the woman.

Only the BABY can be the "victim" in your analogy dumb arse.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Do you view laws against murder as an infringement on somebody’s bodily autonomy?


That's very dishonest of you. In this scenario, someone's rights are being violated. As a society, we've chosen for 40 years to acknowledge that the pregnant woman's rights supersede those of the fetus.

Suddenly, Republicans want to do a 180 on this.
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