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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?

Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to
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and science mandates that women carry our internally-gestating babies



Science has also provided us a way to decide when not to do this, safely.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41193 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to
Certainly not safe for the baby
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to
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Again, In my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.



Jesus you're stupid.

The person being forced to give up their kidney IN YOUR STUPID ANALOGY is the BABY

There's literally no way to crosswalk your analogy in any other way.

Do you know how analogies work?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464970 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to
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Science has also provided us a way to decide when not to do this, safely.

i mean science provides all sorts of methods to murder humans. your point isn't really a point
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21093 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:31 pm to
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End a pregnancy at the time of her choosing.
In other words, killing a baby. Want to try to bring up the non viable shite again?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:31 pm to
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Opinion pieces don't count


A scientific journal article on viability of extremely pre-term babies, and a definition of bodily autonomy, are not opinion pieces little buddy.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:31 pm to
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science demands that she gives up her body autonomy, not the state.


Science has decided that she can choose not to give up her autonomy, but you'd like the state to step in and take away that choice.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5333 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Science has also provided us a way to decide when not to do this, safely.


You mean end the life of another homo sapien with unique DNA. I notice you keep ignoring it so I'm just going to keep posting. The "fetus" is scientifically another homo sapien. You can call it a fetus or bundle of cells but if you took a tissue sample from it and sent it to a lap to see what species it is the results would say "homo sapien".
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Science has decided that she can choose not to give up her autonomy, but you'd like the state to step in and take away that choice.

Science invented guns too.............therefore, I should be able to shoot you in the head if I need a kidney
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:32 pm to
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A pregnant woman's rights SHOULD be violated when she is carrying her 5th soon to be welfare dependent kid


So you're cool with abortions for wealthy women on their first pregnancy?

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74799 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:32 pm to
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IVF. You'd do better not to traffic in absolutes - this isn't the Q thread where anyone who points out your bullshite has their post deleted and gets a DM about not pissing off the idiots


Now that I'm back at my computer and can properly address this:

I'm not saying that infertility procedures like IVF don't exist. Your entire statement is another doozie in the hit parade of intellectual dishonesty. I'll go there in the context of refuting your statement that Republicans don't care for children once they're born, since you brought up the Q Thread. Were you equipped with the mental faculties to comprehend what a significant component of that movement is about is exactly that - combating human trafficking and child abuse/molestation/pedophilia. Look into your hero HRC and the Clinton Foundation's work in post-earthquake Haiti and reconcile the CF's organizational take of 90% of their donations for operational expenses, salaries, etc.

On second thought, don't bother. You'll see more than you care to know in the relatively near future.

But since you want to talk about IVF in framed in an abortion discussion, show the me the couple who would pay $10-20k for the mere CHANCE at getting pregnant that would even jokingly refer to voluntarily aborting a baby because of mere inconvenience.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14946 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
Abortion is murder. You have to be a naive retarded idiot to think otherwise.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
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that's a straw man


It's not a straw man, it's literally your argument.

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45518 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
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There are many risks to pregnancy that fall short of death for the pregnant woman.
Such as? Let's talk specifics and whether or not those "risks" outweigh the life of another human being.

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Who's rights to bodily autonomy are violated if your child continues living?
Anyone who wants to harm the child. Their autonomy to act violently towards my child is superseded by the right of my child to live.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464970 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Science has decided that she can choose not to give up her autonomy,

via, potentially, murder

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, but you'd like the state to step in and take away that choice.

well what other exceptions for murder laws do you propose?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41193 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
Yep. She said it. We should be able to use technology to remove people from this life if it’s inconvenient to us
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:34 pm to
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stop feeding it for a month


Found another one who, 30 pages in, still doesn't understand the concept of bodily autonomy.

It's always fascinating how some of you can continue arguing these and have no idea what the discussion is even about.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:34 pm to
I would bet a million bucks that you are the least respected and least well liked person at your place of Employment......

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Yep. She said it. We should be able to use technology to remove people from this life if it’s inconvenient to us


Sometimes, it's like they just put the ball on the T for ya
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:34 pm to
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The state won't let me kill you for your kidney.


Why won't the state force me to give you my kidney, if you need it to live?
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