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What’s bad about the price of oil dropping?

Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:43 am
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:43 am
Not a pretend economist like many people on this board. What’s bad about the price of oil dropping?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22767 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:46 am to
It is bad for those that pump oil and those that work for those that pump oil. It is good for everyone else because the price of airplane tickets will go down.
The price of transporting goods will go down.
The price of going fishing will go down.
The price of everything will go down.
Businesses will have lower overhead and will make larger profits.

The lower the price of energy the better.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141386 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:48 am to
if you don't live in LA, nothing

if you do live in LA, everything
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:53 am to
US oil industry is revamped for low oil prices after the crash in 2015. It won’t be that bad, the benefit is low fuel prices are a great way to kickstart the new US manufacturing industries.

Plus low oil prices are a kick in the nuts to some of the global bad guys
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 12:58 am to
US jobs, specifically people who post here.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69213 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:00 am to
It won’t cost jobs on net

That is called the broken window fallacy
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22767 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:05 am to
Lower cost of doing business is good for business contrary to what some people think.

Would Amazon make more money if their gas cost went to zero?
Would the airline co. make more money if their jet fuel cost went to zero?
Would cost of anything shipped (which is almost everything) go down if the price of gas was zero?
Would the farmers cost to grow everyone's food go down if the price of gas was zero.

Energy cost is a part of every purchase you make.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87331 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:06 am to
US oil companies have been trimming fat for four years. Lifting costs are way down, increased gas and diesel consumption with warm weather will fill in some of the gaps. Decreased costs of feed stocks will cause manufacturing to go boom. Plus the Chinese manufacturing shortages have caused consumption and supply chain to look elsewhere. Energy independence is a huge bargaining tool for the US economy. We will be fine
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35337 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:08 am to
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What’s bad about the price of oil dropping?

Not much. Oil conglomerates who have half a foot in solar and wind will start pushing for alternative energy (since they can't compete).

The average worker in O&G will get screwed, but half of them would screw over the rest of the country to earn a buck anyways.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:13 am to
Most of those susceptible to layoffs in oil and gas were laid off four years ago. Energy personnel has been lean due to oil and gas mergers, reduced work loads and tightening of drilling spending for the last five years. Domestic oil demand is more than enough to sustain the personnel load we have now. A lot of drilling guys are building pipelines now, etc. midstream and downstream personnel demands are sky high.

Plus it is cheaper and more efficient to frac now than it has ever been. We have been doing more with less since 2015. The industry has adapted and is strong.

Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37634 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:16 am to
Oil prices going down is not going to effect anyone that works for or with O&G companies for at least a year.

Budgets are made annually and spending of the entire budget must be done or else they risk an automatically decreased budget the following year.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141386 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:17 am to
quote:

Not much.
quote:

The average worker in O&G will get screwed, but half of them would screw over the rest of the country to earn a buck anyways.
Your empathy for the working man is touching
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37634 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:20 am to
Yeah he’s a dick. It doesn’t just include truck nut cladded oil field baws in Louisiana. I work for a custom steel fabricator and 90% of our business is O&G all over the country and occasionally abroad. Louisiana is an especially reliable customer. The tentacles reach a long way.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24598 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:20 am to
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the price of airplane tickets will go down. 
...in the midst of an outbreak that the MSM Propaganda Machine is hyping and hoping will kill half of us, which is causing hesitation when considering air travel...
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35337 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:24 am to
quote:

Your empathy for the working man is touching
I only said half. The half that would post online mocking everyone else when times are good and voting in their sole interest. Nobody on this board I am sure.

To tell you the truth I wish no one harm and wish the O&G workers well. I would have them take part in half of the windfalls the CEO's and the like partake. And that goes for windfalls in renewable energy as well.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29815 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:27 am to
pros - its great for low gas prices and costs to ship fods brings food costs down

cons - every job even remotely related to oil and gas industry will be making huge cutbacks and laying off the majority of field workers because profits are way way down

quick summary, lower prices are great but people will be losing their jobs because of it
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 1:28 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:28 am to
quote:

US oil industry is revamped for low oil prices after the crash in 2015. It won’t be that bad,


Uhhh, wtf planet have you been living on???
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:33 am to
quote:

Domestic oil demand is more than enough to sustain the personnel load we have now. A lot of drilling guys are building pipelines now, etc. midstream and downstream personnel demands are sky high.

Plus it is cheaper and more efficient to frac now than it has ever been. We have been doing more with less since 2015. The industry has adapted and is strong.


Again, taking downstream out of the above, how do you arrive at such an absurd conclusion that an industry with unsustainable debt loads is “fine”. Midstream and E&Ps are absolute wrecks prior to corona or this price war...layoffs have been going on since 2015 - they didn’t happen then stop.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:34 am to
quote:

Oil prices going down is not going to effect anyone that works for or with O&G companies for at least a year.

Budgets are made annually and spending of the entire budget must be done or else they risk an automatically decreased budget the following year.


Lol wut?
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 1:40 am to
It's bad for the Louisiana oil rig baws. It's good for the rest of us. Working on oil rigs is degenerate anyways, maybe this will make some of the lazy oil baws get a real job.
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