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What would Steve Jobs think about the current state of Apple?
Posted on 11/29/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 11/29/22 at 5:41 pm
Churning out the same products every year with little to no advancement
Assisting with the attempted suppression of free speech in the USA (threatening Musk, etc.)
Using the Apple Store to frick businesses
Assisting the Chinese Communist Party with quelling protests for the most brutal authoritarian regime in modern history
If alive, me thinks he would be disgusted with what his baby has become
Assisting with the attempted suppression of free speech in the USA (threatening Musk, etc.)
Using the Apple Store to frick businesses
Assisting the Chinese Communist Party with quelling protests for the most brutal authoritarian regime in modern history
If alive, me thinks he would be disgusted with what his baby has become
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 5:44 pm
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 6:08 pm to TomBuchanan
He was a businessman and innovator. I am not sure he really would care about what some people think is morally or ethically right.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 6:24 pm to TomBuchanan
Someone should ask the Woz
So true. Their hardware is A+, but their OS is boring and mostly worthless. But then again they make money off apps that make up for their lackluster pre-set apps.
BB10 was better than Apple/Androids OS, if BB could have only figured out the app security Apple did.
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Churning out the same products every year with little to no advancement
So true. Their hardware is A+, but their OS is boring and mostly worthless. But then again they make money off apps that make up for their lackluster pre-set apps.
BB10 was better than Apple/Androids OS, if BB could have only figured out the app security Apple did.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:13 pm to TomBuchanan
Since Jobs' passing, Apple is all about making a buck with barely a thought to making a great product for consumers.
Huge difference, and the company has never been the same.
Huge difference, and the company has never been the same.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:39 pm to TomBuchanan
Apple became a stale company once he died. They went from constant innovation to factory line production.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:01 pm to TomBuchanan
He’d be Elon. Elon is Steve reincarnated.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:06 pm to SoFlaGuy
I wouldn't compare Elon to Steve at all. Elon seems like a generally nice guy and someone I could have a drink with. Steve Jobs was a POS. An a-hole of the highest magnitude that was a deadbeat dad even though he has millions. He didn't even want to claim his daughter. I don't know how anyone could miss him.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:13 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Apple became a stale company once he died.
Software camera updates on the iphone...that's it.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:23 pm to Dex Morgan
Regardless of Apple's attempt to rewrite history, Jobs did steal a lot of the innovation for the Apple from PARC which was owned by Xerox. And then Gates stole from him, and he held a grudge for decades.
In Trinidad we have a saying "when thief steal from thief God laughs".
I do think he is like Ray Kroc who started franchising McDonalds. He may not have had the original ideas but he certainly had the vision to make it become what it could be when few could even imagine it.
In Trinidad we have a saying "when thief steal from thief God laughs".
I do think he is like Ray Kroc who started franchising McDonalds. He may not have had the original ideas but he certainly had the vision to make it become what it could be when few could even imagine it.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:30 pm to trinidadtiger
Not sure why some conservatives have such a hard-on for Apple. Their software is very much like communism. "Here's what you get and don't you dare think about trying to change anything." I'm no fan of Bill Gates but MS-DOS and Windows gave the end-user much more control over the operating system. For better or worse, you can alter system files and the registry.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:39 pm to Dex Morgan
Totally agree with that point, and I hate being captive to Apple’s closed universe. But you have to admit that hiding the internals and controlling the software ecosystem seems to have made their devices absolutely bulletproof. I have never had an Apple device catastrophically fail on me.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:45 pm to Dex Morgan
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MS-DOS and Windows gave the end-user much more control over the operating system
They also gave the end-user Win-rot. Don't know if that's still a thing or not but that and fiddling with my daughter's school ipad are what pushed me to give the Mac OS a try.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:47 pm to Dex Morgan
quote:In terms of personality, who knows? Both are flawed men, like the rest of us.
I wouldn't compare Elon to Steve at all.
But, in terms of revolutionary impact, Elon is only just now entering Jobs territory.
Jobs revolutionized:
- The computer industry with Apple II
- The movie industry with Pixar
- The music industry with iPod
- The telecommunications world with iPhone
Jobs is up there with some of the greats like Edison.
Elon is at that level, and appears to be a much more stable and grounded individual than Jobs ever was.
Good for us, hopefully.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:48 pm to LSUgusto
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stable and grounded
Elon? The guy's a genius and entertaining as all hell, but those aren't two words that immediately come to mind.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 9:52 pm to Flats
Compared to Jobs?
I'd rather have a beer with Elon than Steve.
I'd rather have a beer with Elon than Steve.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:00 pm to TomBuchanan
He'd probably be more disappointed in the lack of innovation than anything else. Not sure how "woke" he'd be.
Jobs was a self-admitted jerk. The Isaacson biography paints him as such.
Jobs was a self-admitted jerk. The Isaacson biography paints him as such.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:02 pm to Flats
I use iphone. I've had ads on Facebook articles that have crashed the phone and Gboard routinely crashes Safari. So I wouldn't really call iOS rock solid.
For me, Microsoft's biggest draw is backwards compatibility. They mastered it. As a side business, I maintain legacy machines for niche small-businesses. Woodworking, fabric shops, etc that use older but still perfectly functioning equipment that is controlled by 486 and early Pentiums running DOS and Win 3.1. It would cost a huge chunk of money to upgrade it all rather than keep the current setup maintained.
A lot of people have no idea just how much older hardware and software keep the world running. A good example is the weather monitoring system at Paris Orly Airport is still running under Windows 3.1.
For me, Microsoft's biggest draw is backwards compatibility. They mastered it. As a side business, I maintain legacy machines for niche small-businesses. Woodworking, fabric shops, etc that use older but still perfectly functioning equipment that is controlled by 486 and early Pentiums running DOS and Win 3.1. It would cost a huge chunk of money to upgrade it all rather than keep the current setup maintained.
A lot of people have no idea just how much older hardware and software keep the world running. A good example is the weather monitoring system at Paris Orly Airport is still running under Windows 3.1.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:22 pm to Dex Morgan
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I use iphone. I've had ads on Facebook articles that have crashed the phone and Gboard routinely crashes Safari. So I wouldn't really call iOS rock solid.
I was talking about desktop operating systems, not mobile.
I’ve used Galaxies and IPhones and could be happy with either, but I’m not a power user. Make calls, text, browse, calendar. That’s all I ask of a phone. For me there’s more separation on the computing side than the mobile.
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