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Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:29 am to weagle99
Well, around 30 years ago, they appointed Antonin Scalia to the SCOTUS. That did more to stop the encroachment of government into our lives than anything. His opinions single-handedly stopped the expansion of the commerce clause for the first time in 60 years.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:31 am to roadGator
Listening to some, it's already started. I'm just wondering where. 
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:32 am to GumboPot
quote:GWB increased the size of government more than any predecessor.
They have grown it, albeit at a slower rate than the Democrat Party.
Of course, he was a neocon who would have been an obvious ideological democrat 30 years earlier, were it not for the fact that the democratic party had been overrun by hard left wing liberals.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:35 am to troyt37
quote:Dems don't claim to be the champion of small government. Reps do.
Stick with me now. When, to your knowledge, have democrats EVER advocated for shrinking the federal government? If honest, which I understand is difficult for leftists, the answer is "not in our lifetimes."
Your attempt to be condescending has failed. You obviously don't understand the thread.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I shouldn't have used purged when your literal arse is around.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:50 am to kingbob
Scalia is an interesting point
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:54 am to blueboy
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Dems don't claim to be the champion of small government. Reps do.
Your attempt to be condescending has failed. You obviously don't understand the thread.
Okay, even simpler for blueboy.
If the socialist democrats propose a bill to create an entirely new federal department, lets say the Federal Department of Redistribution, and the republicans defeat the bill, has the government gotten any smaller?
Why, yes. Yes it has. Does this show up as something the republicans have done to significantly reduce the size of the federal government? No, no it doesn't. Now, how many times has something like this happened in the last 20 years? I'll tell you one time it didn't, Obamacare. How do you like that albatross around your democrat neck?
Your attempt to portray another ignorant democrat has been successful. Congrats.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:57 am to troyt37
quote:
If the socialist democrats propose a bill to create an entirely new federal department, lets say the Federal Department of Redistribution, and the republicans defeat the bill, has the government gotten any smaller?
Why, yes
The existing government has not become smaller in that scenario.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:00 am to weagle99
This is worth repeating. Not sure if you were looking for a “gotcha,” but you’re not going to get one.
quote:
You think there are a bunch of GOP fan boys in here?
Both parties suck balls.
The Swamp is real. Feel what you may about Trump but he's right about the Swamp.
Deep down we all knew it but giving it a name was effective.
DC needs a purge.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:02 am to weagle99
Republicans make the pie bigger . Or I should say, Conservative economic policies do. Cut tax rates, increase tax receipts, grow the GDP, create wealth, align Government spending with a more efficient ratio relative to the GDP, that sort of thing .
Where Republicans screwed the pooch was not “ military spending” . They screwed the pooch with “ war spending “ .
Where Republicans screwed the pooch was not “ military spending” . They screwed the pooch with “ war spending “ .
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:06 am to GumboPot
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Nothing.
They have grown it, albeit at a slower rate than the Democrat Party.
Pretty much this. I will add in, they are pretty decent watchdogs of spending when a Dem is in the white house (think Clinton & Obama). The same cannot be said for the Dems when a Republican is in the white house.
Also Rep spending tends to be on the military; which is easier to control than entitlement spending.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:06 am to weagle99
quote:nothing, not that anyone is really trying hard anymore
significantly reduce
we have pretty much hit the point of no return where welfare programs and government expansion have pushed us to a point that there is no coming back from
So much of our country has become reliant on the federal government that there would be civil unrest if we pulled back to the degree we should
The democrats successfully monopolized the federal government over the decades to the point that it is so big that it hurts us and to the point that it is so big it hurts not to have it play a majority of roles. Catch 22
This is the Dems baby and they cant control it any more, nor do they want to because frick it, more votes right?
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:06 am to weagle99
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The existing government has not become smaller in that scenario.
Right, so even though the republicans did their job to reduce the size and scope of government, they were actually only able to beat back the expansion in the size and scope of the federal government advocated by the socialist democrats.
That doesn't change the fact that the effect is a government smaller in size and scope. It's a feeble attempt at driving a wedge between republicans and the people who demand smaller government, but really only the ignorant buy in.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:13 am to weagle99
GOP, DNC are both the head of the same snake....
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:18 am to blueboy
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Dems don't claim to be the champion of small government. Reps do.
Your attempt to be condescending has failed. You obviously don't understand the thread.
You're wasting your time. These same people will justify a trillion + dollar infrastructure spend and a multi-billion dollar boarder wall and dumping more money into a bloated military budget.
Trump is two steps forward and one step back. But, that's still better than Obama or Bush who were one step forward and four steps back. If I could get Trump to dump the three boondoggles above, he'd go down as the greatest president in my lifetime.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:20 am to weagle99
They haven't repealed Roe vs. Wade yet, so technically they've helped keep government assistance programs on a slower growth projection, thus reducing the size of government?
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 11:20 am to weagle99
Trump has reduced the size of EPA significantly
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