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What are your main problems with Cruzio's legislation?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:13 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:13 am
There is an obvious need to have more judges in place to clear the books as the backlog just continues to pile up.
This would accomplish:
1. Much faster deportations
2. Able to have a hearing within 72 hours
3. The 20% +/- that are fortunate enough to be able to stay until their actual court hearing: You don't show up, you've forfeited your right to reapply for 5 years.
4. Will help lessen the stigma (albeit false stigma) of children in tears being "ripped away" from their parents
Dallas Morning News
Look, family separation is always going to take place because the illegal aliens are just that - illegal and we have no idea what their intention actually is. If I were to drive a car full of meth with my kid in tow, there would in fact be family separation.
What is your major beef with Cruz's proposed legislation?
This would accomplish:
1. Much faster deportations
2. Able to have a hearing within 72 hours
3. The 20% +/- that are fortunate enough to be able to stay until their actual court hearing: You don't show up, you've forfeited your right to reapply for 5 years.
4. Will help lessen the stigma (albeit false stigma) of children in tears being "ripped away" from their parents
Dallas Morning News
Look, family separation is always going to take place because the illegal aliens are just that - illegal and we have no idea what their intention actually is. If I were to drive a car full of meth with my kid in tow, there would in fact be family separation.
What is your major beef with Cruz's proposed legislation?
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:15 am to idlewatcher
It doesn’t the death penalty for illegal aliens.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:15 am to idlewatcher
quote:
What is your major beef with Cruz's proposed legislation?
Unless you put ankle bracelets on these people, we run into the same problem we had before
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:16 am to idlewatcher
I don't know much about it, but comparing drug running to border crossing is a bit obnoxious. There's a reason capital murder and petty theft have two completely different punishments.
If you want to push your argument further, you may want to use a more realistic comparison. You are undermining your point.
If you want to push your argument further, you may want to use a more realistic comparison. You are undermining your point.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:19 am to bamafan1001
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Unless you put ankle bracelets on these people, we run into the same problem we had before
Obviously an impossible (and not a financially one IMO) task, but I do think that the vast majority (60-70%) have good intentions about coming over the border BUT they don't want to follow through with the very broken and mismanaged process of immigration. There needs to be a stop-gap somewhere to make this work.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 11:37 am to idlewatcher
We need to cut the ruse. The Dems are importing a voter base. If these people pouring in here we’re becoming self sufficient, America loving conservatives Dems would have already built a 100 ft wall with snipers every 50 ft.
I don’t believe America is just for the people blessed to have parents here BUT its not for everyone either. At some point people have to be accountable for the shithole they allowed their home countries to become. You cant be a good little useful socialist and defect to capitalist America to take advantage of our social programs once your corrupt government runs out of money.
The people coming here illegally are cowards who wont make the hard choices to improve their own country. There should be 100% assimilation into American culture but we are lucky if that number is even 50% with the immigrants we have now.
I don’t believe America is just for the people blessed to have parents here BUT its not for everyone either. At some point people have to be accountable for the shithole they allowed their home countries to become. You cant be a good little useful socialist and defect to capitalist America to take advantage of our social programs once your corrupt government runs out of money.
The people coming here illegally are cowards who wont make the hard choices to improve their own country. There should be 100% assimilation into American culture but we are lucky if that number is even 50% with the immigrants we have now.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 11:38 am to idlewatcher
quote:
What are your main problems with Cruzio's legislation?
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 11:54 am to Wtodd
The cost and the expansion of government in the form of federal judges. That said it is the most practical plan I've heard from anyone in Congress.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:29 pm to Midget Death Squad
Which costs the American people more money? That's not petty theft that grand larceny how much money they steal from tax payers.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:39 pm to idlewatcher
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3. The 20% +/- that are fortunate enough to be able to stay until their actual court hearing: You don't show up, you've forfeited your right to reapply for 5 years.
Should be 15 years, plus permanent bar to citizenship.
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4. Will help lessen the stigma (albeit false stigma) of children in tears being "ripped away" from their parents
Why not just send the children back to where they came from, immediately? They have no standing to apply on their own. Most are unaccompanied, so they're not being "ripped" away from anything. Many are victims of human trafficking, but that isn't our problem. They can be repatriated to their country of origin. The remaining are invading aliens. They should be imprisoned or repatriated. Getting across our border shouldn't warrant some "prize" - that's why we have these fricking problems in the first place - for ~50 years this has been some contest with a huge prize at the end.
I don't get the progressive appeal to emotion on this one. I really, really don't.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:42 pm to 88Wildcat
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The cost and the expansion of government in the form of federal judges
That's only part of it. You can bet your arse we'll be building fricking condos along the border for the illegals to stay in until they appear in court. Plus the cost for food, electricity, water, the fricking swimming pool, etc, etc, etc.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:50 pm to idlewatcher
I'm disappointed in Cruz for backing this. We can't give the left ANYTHING on immigration without the reforms Trump was elected on. It's time to fix it once and for all. If you allow the left to demagogue this into stand alone legislation, they will keep doing it until the right has no leverage left.
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