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We've become slaves to big data

Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:42 pm
Am I wrong?

Sports, medicine, sales, marketing, etc

Everything is done based off of analytics and data
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Am I wrong?

Sports, medicine, sales, marketing, etc

Everything is done based off of analytics and data



Is more information with which to make decisions a bad thing?
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:46 pm to
Data is a tool. Just have to keep everything in perspective. Garbage in = garbage out.
Posted by bamacoullion
Fayette, Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
1766 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:49 pm to
It's only going to get worse.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
70982 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:50 pm to
People are ilnumerat, loving big numbers, percentages, stats, etc., so yes in a way.

quote:

Everything is done based off of analytics and data


Yes, but that doesn't mean it's right. Its only variables that the person puts in. I could do the same data using different variables and get different outcomes.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:51 pm to
I work at Salesforce and it’s a good thing we are going off big data.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17739 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:52 pm to
Data can be manipulated to show a desired effect and in the case of models lots of the data points are inputted using assumptions and estimates.

Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8306 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:53 pm to
When we have more information at hand to make decisions for ourselves, absolutely not.


When others have so much information to the point that they make our decisions for us, absolutely.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

I work at Salesforce and it’s a good thing we are going off big data.


Do you only make decisions based off of the data?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101155 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:57 pm to
quote:


Is more information with which to make decisions a bad thing?


I would suggest there are instances where it can be crippling.
Posted by oilattorney4lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2068 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:01 pm to
Data = information.

You want to make decisions based on what? The wild hair up your arse?
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:10 pm to
Is it accurate information?

You ever studied military intelligence?

Bad information can result in significant losses.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
70982 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Data = information.

You want to make decisions based on what? The wild hair up your arse?


Data isn't always good. When running a regression you are taking a data set from someone else then running it on an open source program
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
70982 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:24 pm to
quote:


I work at Salesforce and it’s a good thing we are going off big data.


Lol. So someone above you gives you objectives. Got it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:26 pm to
quote:


Is more information with which to make decisions a bad thing?


You spelled manipulate wrong.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:27 pm to
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I could do the same data using different variables and get different outcomes.


That^
Posted by highbooost
Dayton, OH
Member since Sep 2016
1341 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Data can be manipulated to show a desired effect and in the case of models lots of the data points are inputted using assumptions and estimates.




This is

Oh wait, March 11th, 2020.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54718 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:27 pm to
Yes, we’re “slaves” to better information.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

You want to make decisions based on what?


Decisions about what?

Be specific.
Posted by Vestigial Morgan
Member since Apr 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:38 pm to
Information is always good to have...it's like a gun though. Both are inanimate items ...nothing with out a user and how its used is the key. I think that the bigger issue is the quantity of "data scientist" and the assumption that the vast quantity of data has somehow made statistics as facts. The first point...there are a myriad of really good analytics programs out there for $499 you can get a certificate in "data science" well, like the ERA going up when baseball expands ....there is dilution in pitching...same thing in data science. And then there is the use of the word "science" . which is more applicable as post event analysis of data, but we have come to accept, wrongly, that predictive analytics is nigh near...as much a fact as Boyles law...or certainty as the speed of light. Predictive analytics should be in tee room ...how many widgets will be sold next year..there needs to be starting point. But even the phds that work on sales projections still have to make adjustments to their models


What would the country/ media response be if the models would have initially stated 60k deaths...instead of 2.2 or some number?

What amazed me was Cuomo stating "you are entitled to your opinion but notv your own facts" ...well sorry governor, the facts are actually very few. As in ...two. Fact 1) there is a virus called Covid 19. And 2) there are people that would be alive today if not for the virus. How many that will ultimately be ...is an assumption. How many were going to die in 3 months? Well there is data to suggest that...but that is an assumption as well. Statistics that are "facts" are...Stan Musial hadb the same number hits at home and the road...that's a fact
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