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Well Kansas keeps abortion

Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:39 pm
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
772 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:39 pm
Seriously I don't understand it...a veto-proof majority republican legislature and the amendment to end abortion rights falls like 60/40 at the hands of voters. I will say this, the law was written in a dumb way and many were confused before the vote, not to mention the inundation of leftist media campaign of "all women will die" bullshite. This state is just strange.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127370 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:42 pm to
I truly believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned is more unpopular among the American people than what some may believe. This vote was basically sign #1 of that.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:42 pm to
The only reason to be in Kansas is whitetail.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146498 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:43 pm to
I forget the details but the democrats honed in on Kansas and spent a crap ton of money for this.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141632 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:45 pm to
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the amendment to end abortion rights
"abortion rights" = progspeak
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61108 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:45 pm to
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I truly believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned is more unpopular among the American people than what some may believe. This vote was basically sign #1 of that.


Wrong. Abortion is just not a top issue for normal people, just like climate change and LGBTQ issues and the war in Ukraine.

Polls on abortion typically show overwhelming support because pollsters were telling people than if Roe V Wade was overturned then it would outlaw abortion in the whole US.

Its time to let the people have the debate on abortion in their own states. We've never been allowed to actually vote and go through a democratic process when it comes to abortion.

The left loves nothing more than to skip over the people and get judges to force down their favorite policies.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6931 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:45 pm to
Lots of conservatives have abortions.

They know their daughters, wives, lovers, mothers, and randos had abortions.

You can either keep safe legal abortion or have people you care about get harmed from lack of abortion access.

Kansas showed that.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:46 pm to
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I truly believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned is more unpopular among the American people than what some may believe. This vote was basically sign #1 of that.
This vote says nothing about the Dobbs decision. All that did was return decisions like these to the states. That's what Kansas did.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14779 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:46 pm to
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the law was written in a dumb way and many were confused


This is the key, and has been a colossal failure in many states. They’ve had all the time in the world to write straightforward legislation that prohibits ELECTIVE abortions of viable healthy pregnancies and leaves the truly tragic situations up to patient and doctor.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:46 pm to
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You can either keep safe legal abortion or have people you care about get harmed from lack of abortion access.



LOL yes these are the only choices

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:48 pm to
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truly believe


No one here gives one shite what your pussy, commie weakling arse believes.
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
772 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:48 pm to
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I forget the details but the democrats honed in on Kansas and spent a crap ton of money for this.


Yes they did. My phone must have gotten 20 texts. The messaging was hard to overcome because people believed that this law wouldn't have allowed even ectopic pregnancy to be terminated which was simply untrue.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:48 pm to
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You can either keep safe legal abortion or have people you care about get harmed from lack of abortion access
So monumentally fricking stupid. But that's no surprise coming from you.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8822 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:49 pm to
Here's how I see abortion. About 1/3 people really care about keeping it, 1/3 want to get rid of it, and 1/3 are indifferent. This is just based on my own life experiences.

I am in the 1/3 that wants it gone. I'm hoping to push the needle and make some traction into the indifferent 1/3.

It is probably hard to win this issue outright on a statewide ammendment like this even in KS, especially of not worded correctly.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:51 pm to
I agree w/ you
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14779 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:52 pm to
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people believed that this law wouldn't have allowed even ectopic pregnancy to be terminated which was simply untrue.


Horrible deceit from the left but these bills need to be written with explicit language protecting treatment for these kinds of situations.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9891 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:53 pm to
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I forget the details but the democrats honed in on Kansas and spent a crap ton of money for this.


Ok so someone watching TV at home saw an ad that convinced them murder should remain legal? Not buying this explanation
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:53 pm to
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This state is just strange.


1) It’s kansas. kansas is shithole. res ipsa loquitur

2) I’ve noted it before tonight. kansas is weird on abortion. It’s a conservative state that elects a lot of Democrats and likes abortion. Tiller is one of the most notorious abortionists of all time. And he was set up in Wichita and regularly performed third-trimester abortions. He personally performed 1,000 abortions/year for years.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:53 pm to
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@DavidBulcock
I have been a poll worker through 4 elections. Two presidential, one midterm and todays primary. Today was by far the busiest Election Day I have worked. My precinct saw over 1200 voters come through the door. Tons of unaffiliated voters voted today.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27256 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 9:54 pm to
It's states rights. That's what they voted for. frick 'em!
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