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Was the Special Council brought on to cover for spying on a presidential campaign?

Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:22 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32063 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:22 am
The Dossier along with an article based on a leak from the FBI was used to obtain the FISA warrant.

Was the Mueller investigation just a distraction or was it an attempted cover for illegal spying on the Trump campaign?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31618 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:23 am to
I’m sure many thought there was legit reason for it, but those people were ignorant.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32063 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:25 am to
Not only was the investigation unable to uncover illegal activity, it was predicated on bullshite. It was a huge waste of time when we could have been investigating FISA abuse and corruption.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67526 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:33 am to
It was a huge delaying tactic, that's for sure.

Like an army fighting a rear guard retreat.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:34 am to
Well if he was, they SUCKED at that as well because we all know about it.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57712 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Was the Mueller investigation just a distraction or was it an attempted cover for illegal spying on the Trump campaign?


I think the Mueller investigation was more of a way to shield Obama and Hillary from investigation.
Posted by CC
Western NY
Member since Feb 2004
14861 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:36 am to
quote:

FBI Departures:

James Comey, director (fired)
Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
Josh Campbell, special assistant to James Comey (resigned)
James Turgal, executive assistant director (resigned)
Greg Bower, assistant director for office of congressional affairs (resigned)
Michael Steinbach, executive assistant director (resigned)
John Giacalone, executive assistant director (resigned)
Rod Rosenstein
Bill Preistap, head of FBI's Counterintelligence Unit (retired)
Randall Coleman, head of FBI's Counterintelligence Unit before Preistap
Joe Pientka, FBI Agent
Michael Steinbach, Executive Assistant Director of FBI (retired)
Jonathan Moffa, FBI Analyst
Sally Moyer, FBI Attorney
Rick Mains, Supervisory Special Agent
Dean Chappell, Section Chief of FBI (retired)
Charles Kable, FBI (retired)
David Bowditch


DOJ Departures:

Sally Yates, deputy attorney general (fired)
Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general (twice demoted)
David Laufman, counterintelligence chief (resigned)
Rachel Brand, deputy attorney general (resigned)
Trisha Beth Anderson, office of legal counsel for FBI (demoted or reassigned*)
John P. Carlin, assistant attorney general (resigned)
Peter Kadzik, assistant attorney general, congressional liaison (resigned)
Mary McCord, acting assistant attorney general (resigned)
Matthew Axelrod, principal assistant to deputy attorney general (resigned)
Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney, SDNY (fired along with 45 other U.S. Attorneys)
Sharon McGowan, civil rights division (resigned)
Diana Flynn, litigation director for LGBTQ civil rights (resigned)
Vanita Gupta, civil rights division (resigned)
Joel McElvain, assistant branch director of the civil division (resigned)
Bruce Swartz, Criminal Division
Zainab Ahmad, Criminal Division
Andrew Weissmann, Criminal Division
Dana Boente, DOJ General Counsel (resigned)
Edward O'Callaghan, (retired) Assistant Attorney General and Dead of DOJ's National Security Division.
Loretta King, Asst Attorney General for Civil Rights (resigned)
Alan Rozenshtein, DOJ Lawyer (resigned)

I'm sure there are dozens of others but these are some pretty big players that have left the FBI and DOJ.
MrLSU 2/18/19
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15380 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:38 am to
Two words.

Insurance. Policy.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45786 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:39 am to
At minimum, it was set up to delay and to try and find ANYTHING that could be used to delegitimize Trump. Anything to delay and deny, and hopefully indict was their plan.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62355 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:39 am to
They were brought on to cover, till a change in Congress, it worked. Now the House can delay, cover-up, sew dissent on the whole thing, like trying to take out Barr and obstruct, legally.....
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89453 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:39 am to
Unquestionably. Whether or not you question Mueller's motives, the investigation itself was to provide top cover and give breathing space to the cabal to cover their tracks as much as possible and attempt avoid there being sufficient evidence developed to put any of them in jail.

Unfortunately, it was probably successful in that endeavor. They figured it was a low risk/high reward type deal.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11418 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:44 am to
The entire charade was a cover up of spying on a political opponent and an attempted coup of a sitting President. It is passed time for the DOJ to name names and prosecute the guilty.They never believed that Hillary would lose and all of this would be never see the light of day after her glorious victory. It was her turn!
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1560 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Was the Mueller investigation just a distraction or was it an attempted cover for illegal spying on the Trump campaign?


I think it was a last ditch effort in hoping Trump would fire Muller. They knew there was no collusion, so they thought if they could piss him off enough to fire Muller then obstruction was their only path.

They really thought she was going to win. They took a big gamble after that. Most men would have caved under the pressure Trump has endured. Looking back it’s really incredible he survived this. Just think about everything their doing and have done to destroy this man. It takes a rare kind of fortitude to overcome what Trump has survived. We’ve never seen anything like this in are lives.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:53 am to
I think it was a huge delay/ confusion tactic. I also think they assumed such an investigation would turn up something, anything, that could muddy the waters enough for them to survive.

Mueller may have been a pawn or a player, I don't know.

In the end, even if they knew it was a desperate half court shot, it was their best play. Which is why I'm certain there is a HUGE pile of shite about to be uncovered. You can't get so many power players involved in such a nasty conspiracy unless there is something major to protect.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:03 pm to
Yes.

And hopefully it will come full circle and bite them in the arse
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:19 pm to
Both?? Distraction for the spying.

Floods letter to Barr is a nice way to set the foundation for sure.
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