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re: Was Ted Kaczynski right?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:54 am to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:54 am to Lima Whiskey
It will end when the people have had enough and rise up. This nation started with a Revolution and may be saved by another one.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:58 am to Crimson Wraith
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Brother turned him in or he'd probably still be free.
A testimony to the real lack of usefulness of the FB lies.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:18 am to Rex Feral
Yes, he was spot on correct. Now I’m not condoning his actions...
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:19 am to Rex Feral
About his actions, he wasn't right.
About his philosophy, he wasn't wrong...
About his philosophy, he wasn't wrong...
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:23 am to deuceiswild
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I agree with gist of what you’re saying here, but what makes you so certain that if these entities were controlled by conservatives that it would all be okay? Power corrupts everyone. Just my opinion.
They should not be controlled by conservatives OR leftists. They should just do their job and stay out of politics as much as possible.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:28 am to Rex Feral
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Not mailing bombs to people, but the thoughts in his manifesto about technology.
Kaczynski was a honor graduate of the CIA’s esteemed MKUltra School.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 10:52 am
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:34 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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You can show someone an extended quote from Ted Kaczynski without telling them the author.
Damn, that guy is insightful. People should hear what he has to say. What's his name?
Ted Kaczynski.
Oh.
I doubt the average American even knows his name. I told people that tech further creates the divide between the intelligent and the idiots.
You beat me to it as I was about to say the same thing. Last week I watched a Netflix movie, "Breach," about FBI agent Robert Hanssen. He was personally responsible for the largest intelligence breach the US has ever had. At one time he led the FBI department in charge of keeping track of Russia. He was thought to be responsible for revealing the identity of approx 50 agents and at least 3 deaths. Anyway, at the end of the show it said he was in the Federal Supermax Prison in CO. I mentioned to a younger person that that's the same prison where a bunch of notorious people are, including: Terry Nichols, El Chapo, Eric Rudolph, Ted Kaczynski and others. The person didn't recognize most of those names. BTW, I liked "Breach". I also recommend "Richard Jewell" and "Manhunt: Deadly Games." "Richard Jewell" was a good movie done by Clint Eastwood about the man who's life was ruined when the FBI leaked his name to a local reporter as the suspected Olympic Park bomber. There was no evidence he did the bombing and he was never charged. "Manhunt" was a multi part series on CBS. The original was about Ted Kaczynski. "Manhunt: Deadly Games" ties together the story about Richard Jewell w/ the actual Atlanta Olympic Park bomber, Eric Rudolph. BTW, after watching "Deadly Games" and "Richard Jewell" you'll realize corruption at the top levels of the FBI is nothing new.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:29 am to jlovel7
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It feels every year the percentage of the population who rely on many other factors to take care of themselves continues to grow. As in people who don’t prepare or know how to think critically if they’re thrown a curveball.
That’s the very definition of dependency.
Creating dependency is a means of creating control.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:40 am to Rex Feral
Like any other tool technology can be used for good or evil. Because of technological advances in farming we are able to feed billions, also nuclear weapons can kill just as many. It is up to Mankind how to use technology, the genie is out the bottle.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:44 am to Rex Feral
only on this board can you find people reflecting fondly on this lunatic. Also, I am MAGA
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:46 am to Crimson Wraith
After the FBI published his manifesto to help out him, I'm sure his brother worried about being mailed a package as well. I'm sure he was afraid brother Ted might want to off him to protect his identity from being revealed. So can't really blame the brother in that regard.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:48 am to Rex Feral
Shoshanna Zuboff is great on this subject matter too.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:18 pm to Zach
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The manifesto is 3,500 words.
Yes, and he reduces a complicated phenomena into very simple and clear language.
He writes very efficiently.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:19 pm to Rex Feral
His views on technology were fairly prescient but he kind of ruined his credibility when he resorted to violence to enact change. He should have been intelligent enough to know the change he wanted wouldn't come about via terrorism.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:38 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Yes, and he reduces a complicated phenomena into very simple and clear language. He writes very efficiently.
No he didn't and no he doesn't. When the L.A. Times printed it everyone commented what a horrible piece of writing.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:13 pm to GurleyGirl
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China is clearly on a fast track toward world domination and liberal progressives naively believe that they have everything under control. Both factions have a vision for a New World Order but I assure you that China's vision is quite different from what liberals have in mind. China has stolen technology and aligned themselves with Western business interests. They are developing their economy and technology rapidly to the extent that when they no longer need our technology, liberal progressives will have a very rude awakening.
Precisely why China among many other things is the greatest threat to the U.S.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:32 pm to Rex Feral
Anybody that agrees with TedK is off the deep end and will not be taken seriously by anyone that reads their posts.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:39 pm to JDGTiger
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Anybody that agrees with TedK is off the deep end and will not be taken seriously by anyone that reads their posts.
Even assholes can have a good idea, though you may be the exception.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:43 pm to JDGTiger
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Anybody that agrees with TedK is off the deep end and will not be taken seriously by anyone that reads their posts.
A lot of very intelligent people did agree with the manifesto, it’s just too bad it was written by a serial murderer. No one is condoning the extremes Ted went to, but the lunatic had some valid points.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:09 pm to Zach
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No he didn't and no he doesn't. When the L.A. Times printed it everyone commented what a horrible piece of writing.
Anyone who says that is clutching their hands and seeking approval from the crowd.
They’re too afraid of what other people might think, to look at his ideas.
Industrial Society and Its Future has two problems.
One, his solution, dragging society back into the Stone Age, is impossible and undesirable.
His campaign of terror was reprensible.
The second?
He doesn’t sound like a lunatic. He identifies a problem which will only grow worse as technology becomes more sophisticated. Modern life is less and less fulfilling. We are growing more and more unhappy.
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