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Was Carter Page an informant or not?

Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted by djmicrobe
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:25 pm
Carter Page is giving Stefan Halper the "benefit of the doubt". Page was also used by the F Bee Eye as an informant in the past (2013)
If the F Bee Eye spied on me for no reason, I'd be furious. If I was part of it, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.
Page is on Ingraham and he is acting like nothing happened. He also has not been charged with lying to Muller's team. He was trying not to laugh when Michael Caputo said many top intelligence people would be in orange suits when all of this is over.
I say Page was part of a team used to set up Trump or else he would have been charged with lying to Muller.

Carter Page told Sam Clovis that Halper saw him on CNN and wanted to meet him. Halper told Sam clovis that Carter Page thought they should get together.
This sounds like Page was trying to help Halper get into the Trump campaign. Since Page was an F Bee eye informant in the past, he would know how an informant acts. Page seems like he was acting like an informant providing a way for paid agents to make contacts in Trump's campaign.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 11:37 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:29 pm to
If Page was an FBI plant, and the FBI obtained the FISA warrant on team Trump because of Carter Page, holy shite balls.

This scandal has just gone nuclear.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:29 pm to
I think Page wears velcro shoes, and not just for the convenience.
Posted by djmicrobe
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:30 pm to
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Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:32 pm to
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I think Page wears velcro shoes, and not just for the convenience.



I don't know what this means but it sounds really funny!
Posted by djmicrobe
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:35 pm to
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If Page was an FBI plant, and the FBI obtained the FISA warrant on team Trump because of Carter Page, holy shite balls.


I hope Page was not in on it. If he was part of the set up, then I hope it is in the documents Nunes is requesting. If so, maybe it will be discovered Tomorrow Tues.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:35 pm to
I think he was. I've said it for a year. Dude doesn't have a care in the world, testifies to Congress with no lawyer, is a former FBI informant, and requests "classified sessions" with Congress. Maybe he's just a really eccentric guy, but I don't think so.

People say, "But how could he be an agent when he was under surveillance?" I would say that he was used. It's a clever way to maintain his cover "See I was surveilled, I can't be an agent." It's also possible that even the FBI didn't know he was working for CIA and unknowingly put a CIA agent under surveillance.

I think PapaD was innocent in all this and was just caught up in the web of spies approaching him. I don't get the same vibe from Page.

Maybe I'm wrong, but there's "just something about him."
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:38 pm to
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People say, "But how could he be an agent when he was under surveillance?" I would say that he was used. It's a clever way to maintain his cover "See I was surveilled, I can't be an agent." It's also possible that even the FBI didn't know he was working for CIA and unknowingly put a CIA agent under surveillance.


Good point. Page could have been working for Brennan unbeknownst to most in the FBI and DOJ except a few people at the top.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:40 pm to
I agree 100%. I’ve thought this for a while. He talks and acts with impunity. The shite is hitting the fan all around him and he simply brushes it off.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 9:41 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:40 pm to
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Maybe I'm wrong, but there's "just something about him."

Well, there's the fact that he was naval intelligence and lived in Russia for years. That's something. And that's barely scratching the surface.

Why on earth does a guy like this get hired by a presidential campaign?

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:41 pm to
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I don't know what this means but it sounds really funny!


He's not smart enough to tie his own shoes.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:42 pm to
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Why on earth does a guy like this get hired by a presidential campaign?


Probably a recommendation by a NeverTrumper spy.
Posted by djmicrobe
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:42 pm to
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I think PapaD was innocent in all this and was just caught up in the web of spies approaching him. I don't get the same vibe from Page.

Maybe I'm wrong, but there's "just something about him."


PapaD has been charged with lying. He's ruled out as being in on it. If you're part of the team you don't get convicted. Page is acting like he is untouchable.
That might be the there's "just something about him". It's his attitude.

Who gets set up by a gov't intelligence agency and is not calling for prez Trump to come after these guys with the full extent of the law? An informant.
I think this is why Nunes says there may be more than one spy embedded in Trumps campaign. I think the MSM outed Stefan Halper to throw everyone off of the 2nd spy which is likely Page.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Wtxtiger
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:43 pm to
He has that
“I know so much but can’t say”
Look
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Probably a recommendation by a NeverTrumper spy.


The problem is that you would put all of your faith and all of the blame on something like that

There is no accountability from you on, or accountability on, the campaign itself
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:52 pm to
I think Page is just kind of a simple minded person.
Posted by IllegalPete
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:53 pm to
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Why on earth does a guy like this get hired by a presidential campaign?



Good question. Who recommended him? Who approved him? Who did he communicate with in the campaign?

I think he had one meeting the entire campaign where he was in the same room with Trump, a bunch of people sitting around a table discussing foreign policy.

Page is the guy who tried to get Trump to go to Moscow repeatedly through emails. The campaign laughed him out of the room (figuratively). Page then goes to Moscow on his own dime to speak at a commencement ceremony.

Nobody (media, Mueller, Senate/House committees, leaks) has identified anyone that Page met with. It is just assumed he met with big bad oligarchs. No actual names have ever been revealed.

Page has also never met a camera he didn't like. He has probably been on Fox News for at least 20 interviews over the last 12 months. Always with the "aw shucks" routine and goofy smile.

Page has a financial background, worked with one of the big investment banks out of London for years and specialized in Russian and Eastern European deals if I recall correctly.

Then he lived in Moscow for a brief stint, maybe a couple of years.

It would not shock me to learn he was a CIA plant that the FBI knew nothing about.

The entire basis for the FISA application/Russian collusion is:

-Page, a low level nobody who may have met with a few Russians but never had any influence in the campaign.

-Papa D, a low level nobody who may have met with a few Russians in England, yelled out at a bar to a Clinton Foundation donor that he heard Russia had Hillary's emails, and he never had any influence on the campaign

-Hapler, who tried to pay both Page and Papa D and build relationships with them, and talk about Russia

-A Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer/alleged spy who got her visa specially approved by Obama admin/Kerry and met with Fusion GPS before and after the Trump Tower meeting.


It takes a whole lot of suspending belief to think that any of this shite was on accident, or that any of this equaled Trump/Russia collusion.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 9:59 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

The problem is that you would put all of your faith and all of the blame on something like that



What is this “all” stuff you speak of?

I’m just trying to figure this shite out as more and more info comes out.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:02 pm to
Agreed

FBI had their guy in the Trump camp - Comey knew about him
CIA had their own guy in the Trump camp

BHO/BRENNAN/HRC knew about both no doubt IMHO
Comey didn’t know about Page - plausible deniability for the FBI
Brennan directed it all
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78328 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:08 pm to
Lol.
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