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I think the vaccines are a greater risk by far than the help they provide (if any), and it was criminal that they forced healthy people and people who already had Covid to get vaccinated.
And yet, Penrod’s assessment is correct. Just because “a majority” of Covid deaths were from the vaccinated population, there’s not enough information in that factoid to tell you if the vaccine actually improved or harmed the chances of someone from dying of Covid.
And yet, Penrod’s assessment is correct. Just because “a majority” of Covid deaths were from the vaccinated population, there’s not enough information in that factoid to tell you if the vaccine actually improved or harmed the chances of someone from dying of Covid.
This post was edited on 11/23 at 3:54 pm
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by BlueJacket
on 11/23/22 at 4:00 pm to Toomer Deplorable

Too bad for you that this doesn't mean what you think it means. Go learn something about statistics.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by the808bass on 11/23/22 at 4:02 pm to Jimbeaux
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And yet, Penrod’s assessment is correct. Just because “a majority” of Covid deaths were from the vaccinated population, there’s not enough information in that factoid to tell you if the vaccine actually improved or harmed the chances of someone from dying of Covid.
What it does tell us is that the vaccine is not currently an effective means of preventing infection or serious outcome from Covid.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 11/23/22 at 4:33 pm to the808bass
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What it does tell us is that the vaccine is not currently an effective means of preventing infection or serious outcome from Covid.

re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 11/23/22 at 4:38 pm to BlueJacket
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Too bad for you that this doesn't mean what you think it means. Go learn something about statistics.
And too bad for you that you have reading comprehension issues. Reread the OP very carefully.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Jimbeaux
on 11/23/22 at 4:44 pm to the808bass

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What it does tell us is that the vaccine is not currently an effective means of preventing infection or serious outcome from Covid.
Not very effective, and possibly not effective at all. Maybe even anti-effective.
That’s why I said it garbage and not worth the risk, considering the considerable side-effect risks.
But I’d actually be interested in knowing if the vaccine has ANY effectiveness in reducing Covid transmission or Covid death.
Either way, heads should roll for the mandates and the suppression of information.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by BlueJacket
on 11/23/22 at 4:45 pm to Toomer Deplorable

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And too bad for you that you have reading comprehension issues. Reread the OP very carefully.
I suggest you do the same. Don't read what you want it to say, think about what it actually means. Think real hard.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 11/23/22 at 4:53 pm to BlueJacket
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BlueJacket
It NEVER was a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
OK, I’m done! Now your turn!
Don't read what you want it to say, think about what it actually means. Think real hard.

re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by the808bass on 11/23/22 at 5:00 pm to Jimbeaux
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But I’d actually be interested in knowing if the vaccine has ANY effectiveness in reducing Covid transmission or Covid death.
Probably in the months March through June of 2021 or so.
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re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 11/23/22 at 5:09 pm to the808bass
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March 2021

re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by BlueJacket
on 11/23/22 at 5:22 pm to Toomer Deplorable

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Toomer Deplorable
No matter how many times you say it to yourself, it doesn't make it true. You anti-vaxxers kept the pandemic going and were dying and being hospitalized more than vaccinated. It's OK, no one was forced to get vaccinated. You made your bad choice. Facts over feelings. You're forming the conclusion before looking at the data.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by the808bass on 11/23/22 at 5:51 pm to BlueJacket
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You anti-vaxxers kept the pandemic going and were dying and being hospitalized more than vaccinated.
You didn’t really keep up with the data during the pandemic, didja?
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by BlueJacket
on 11/23/22 at 5:53 pm to the808bass

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You didn’t really keep up with the data during the pandemic, didja?
Absolutely did. Cite your source for your claim if you have evidence that contradicts the CDC data. Let me guess. You have stories about your brother's, uncle's, wife's, friend from work.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 11/23/22 at 5:59 pm to BlueJacket
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You're forming the conclusion before looking at the data.
That is rich coming from someone still white-knighting for these false COVID-1984 narratives.

re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 11/23/22 at 6:43 pm to BlueJacket
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CDC data


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These are the ones who are most likely to die. The vaccines made them less likely to die than they otherwise would have,
Is that demonstrable fact or conjecture? Doesn't seem like it's possible to measure.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by BlueJacket
on 11/23/22 at 9:26 pm to Toomer Deplorable

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Toomer Deplorable
So still nothing. I didn't think so. You anti-vaxx pseudoscience people never can just provide evidence for your claims. You just deflect to something else.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/23/22 at 9:30 pm to Penrod
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The vaccines made them less likely to die
Of Covid.
The jury is still out on if it made them more likely to die of other causes.
re: WaPo: Majority of Covid Deaths Are Comprised Of The Vaccinated…Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/23/22 at 9:42 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Do you understand that the most at risk populations got the vaccine right? That would make them more likely to die period, much less if they got Covid. They did potentially die from Covid, but not because of the Vax.
Statistics and context seems really hard for some of you and I am not a supporter of the vaccines.
Statistics and context seems really hard for some of you and I am not a supporter of the vaccines.
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