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Wanting to restrict rights because of hypothetical future scenarios
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:08 pm
That is what happening with the printed plastic gun debate. None of these guns have been used in any violent crimes as far as I know.
It would be the same thing as restricting free speech because someone, somewhere might ‘yell fire in a crowded theater’.
It would be the same thing as restricting free speech because someone, somewhere might ‘yell fire in a crowded theater’.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:11 pm to weagle99
Now that’s a knee jerk reaction.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:15 pm to weagle99
Explain to me what law would stop a terrorist from printing a plastic gun.
Until you can come up with a REAL plan to stop a terrorist from using the printer then shut the frick up.
Then when you come up with your pathetic excuse of a plan... shut the frick up.
Until you can come up with a REAL plan to stop a terrorist from using the printer then shut the frick up.
Then when you come up with your pathetic excuse of a plan... shut the frick up.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:17 pm to weagle99
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It would be the same thing as restricting free speech because someone, somewhere might ‘yell fire in a crowded theater’.
It is called "prior restraint" and is not allowed.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:17 pm to TigerMyth36
Yea , Im all for gun rights but the implications of ANYONE be able to printing out his/her own stockpile frightens me .
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:19 pm to DreauxB2015
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Yea , Im all for gun rights but the implications of anyone printing out his/her own stock pile frightens me .
You can make zip guns already without these printers.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:21 pm to DreauxB2015
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Im all for gun rights but
Anything that comes in front of ‘but’ doesn’t mean anything
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:24 pm to weagle99
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None of these guns have been used in any violent crimes as far as I know.
A private citizen has never nuked a city. Can we get some enriched uranium?
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:24 pm to TigerMyth36
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Explain to me what law would stop a terrorist from printing a plastic gun.
The files are already out there, worldwide. There is no way to stop him. I am not willing to give up freedom because people are clutching their pearls over hypothetical terrorist actions.
Do these same people support suspending the 5th Amendment for areas around airports or sporting events or schools so that we can search and possibly capture terrorists?
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:24 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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private citizen has never nuked a city. Can we get some enriched uranium?
Nukes aren’t protected by the Constitution.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:25 pm to weagle99
Do you even think of the children, bro?
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:25 pm to DreauxB2015
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Yea , Im all for gun rights but the implications of ANYONE be able to printing out his/her own stockpile frightens me .
What an irrational fear. Lol
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:28 pm to weagle99
Ignoring the fact that these bans are complete horse shite, is anyone else sick of federal district court judges exceeding their "limited jurisdiction" and issuing nationwide injunctions? They've done it with immigration, DACA, and now 3d guns. It's completely unconstitutional for them to do it and especially pisses me off that some cocksucker judge in Seattle thinks he can tell me what I can and cannot do.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:28 pm to TigerMyth36
If you are worried about terrorists then close the borders and vet anyone from a terrorists country.
Oh wait, Trump tried to ban people from certain Muslim countries but that was too extreme. But a 3D print has got people bent out of shape.
Oh wait, Trump tried to ban people from certain Muslim countries but that was too extreme. But a 3D print has got people bent out of shape.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:29 pm to DreauxB2015
My statement still stands. How can you stop terrorists from using it?
The printer has already been created. Guns aren't some insanely hard items to build. It will be used. They could make them illegal, the penalty for owning one could be death and it wouldn't stop a single terrorist.
Pandoras box has been opened.
Democrats know this is nothing more than a talking point with no solution. As usual, they don't even want a solution. They want something to scream about.
Why didn't they change immigration law when they had the House, Senate and Presidency?
Why didn't they repeal the Patriot Act when they had the House Senate and Presidency?
Why didn't they change gun laws when they had the House Senate and Presidency?
Because at the end of the day, they want something to scream about. They aren't interested in solving anything. That is a fact. Dispute it all you want but you can't dispute they had the House Senate and Presidency and did shite when they had the chance.
No different than the clowns on here hoping Roe v Wade gets overturned so they can win the next election. They are so illogical, they would rather their base be hurt so they can win an election.
In short, let me know how to stop terrorists from using something that already exists, or shut the frick up. This is nothing more than lip service fear mongering.
The printer has already been created. Guns aren't some insanely hard items to build. It will be used. They could make them illegal, the penalty for owning one could be death and it wouldn't stop a single terrorist.
Pandoras box has been opened.
Democrats know this is nothing more than a talking point with no solution. As usual, they don't even want a solution. They want something to scream about.
Why didn't they change immigration law when they had the House, Senate and Presidency?
Why didn't they repeal the Patriot Act when they had the House Senate and Presidency?
Why didn't they change gun laws when they had the House Senate and Presidency?
Because at the end of the day, they want something to scream about. They aren't interested in solving anything. That is a fact. Dispute it all you want but you can't dispute they had the House Senate and Presidency and did shite when they had the chance.
No different than the clowns on here hoping Roe v Wade gets overturned so they can win the next election. They are so illogical, they would rather their base be hurt so they can win an election.
In short, let me know how to stop terrorists from using something that already exists, or shut the frick up. This is nothing more than lip service fear mongering.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:32 pm to weagle99
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Nukes aren’t protected by the Constitution.
How we supposed to overthrow a tyrannical government then?
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:33 pm to DreauxB2015
The files are mostly just the receivers. One must still add a barrel, trigger group, magazine, the bullets themselves, etc.
There is one file ( Liberator, I think) that requires a metal tube for a barrel and a nail for a firing pin. But, that is a rudimentary firearm at BEST. Crude, inaccurate, etc.
This is much ado about nothing. frick Fed Gov overreach based upon fear and ignorance
There is one file ( Liberator, I think) that requires a metal tube for a barrel and a nail for a firing pin. But, that is a rudimentary firearm at BEST. Crude, inaccurate, etc.
This is much ado about nothing. frick Fed Gov overreach based upon fear and ignorance
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:39 pm to weagle99
Agreed, ‘guns’ have been demonized, plus you throw in individual rights and you get a fit from those apprised to freedom. It’s all about control, and for the time being, both the hammer and bullets still make metal detectors beep, so what’s the big deal?
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:56 pm to weagle99
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It would be the same thing as restricting free speech because someone, somewhere might ‘yell fire in a crowded theater’.
It is basically this.
The gun plans aren't a gun. It is information.
This is not the restriction of a firearm, this is government censorship of information that the government deems unacceptable.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:05 pm to TrueTiger
Which is the brilliance of what Cody Wilson is doing.
He should be recognized as a civil rights pioneer.
He should be recognized as a civil rights pioneer.
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