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re: Vivek going up in flames
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/26/24 at 3:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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they are utopians, 99% of their advice is pure fairy dust.
Says the fricking libertarian lmao
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:01 pm to Caplewood
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Says the fricking libertarian lmao
What was the Leftist meme you're mimicking here?
Oh yeah.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:09 pm to Pettifogger
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Didn't you just go after someone for ad homs?
You're interpreting having to explain your beliefs as an ad hom, which is telling.
Show me the insult.
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I don't have any control over the race of people who become Reformed Christians or have my view of child rearing or like SEC football. It so happens most of them are white.
Think about this and selection bias.
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The overemphasis on meaningless personal liberties and freedoms is a very recent development
You need to define this, because the 2 most likely interpretations both present major issues.
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Pretty confident in saying there would be complete bafflement at the concept of "live your truth" 50 years ago.
Based on this I assume you were saying "meaningless personal liberties" as some random things associated with the very recent/woke Leftism, which makes your comment non-responsive as (1) we aren't talking about Leftist wokism, just Leftist economics, generally, and (2) what does this have to do with individualism and the family (which was the direct response)?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:17 pm to 50_Tiger
Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:23 pm to OBReb6
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Leftists/wokesters are closer to correct on many issues than classical liberals, it is just for the wrong reason, or wanting the wrong outcome from their observations.
I know your political views based off of this post alone.
They can be so close sometimes to something good. I at least appreciate how they seem to care about the average person.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:29 pm to 50_Tiger
If you work in tech you know this to be true..Americans want to be coddled and work from home in their pajamas...foreigners will do whatever it takes to succeed...Cultural differences make them better employees than most, but not all, American born folks...that's a fact...
Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:30 pm to 50_Tiger
He ain't lying!
Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:32 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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If you work in tech you know this to be true..Americans want to be coddled and work from home in their pajamas...foreigners will do whatever it takes to succeed...Cultural differences make them better employees than most, but not all, American born folks...that's a fact...
I see plenty of people in tech, right here, saying Indians are horrid on average.
Are you speaking of other foreigners?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 4:36 pm to BuckyCheese
All the Indians I’ve worked with are decent at literal mindless grunt work but beyond that it’s painful to get them to produce high level work that requires even the slightest autonomy
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:18 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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I agree with Vivek.
Okay, Boomer
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:38 pm to Hester Carries
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All the Indians I’ve worked with are decent at literal mindless grunt work but beyond that it’s painful to get them to produce high level work that requires even the slightest autonomy
This circles back to my post ITT about what Vivek gets wrong. My comments aren't specific to Indians, but it applies generally to our global dominance.
Where Vivek and that mindset hurts children is in this high level thinking and creativity. The reason why America can rank so low in so many educational rankings through high school but why we have the clear-cut #1 college system is because a smart kid can always catch up (and American kids do in college). We still dominate the highest of the high level industries globally is because our kids are given a generalist mindset in our system. This combined with the capitalist/individualist ideals of our culture permits the path for our higher-IQ types to move past the ones who grew up "being taught the test" of similar IQs. So can they get certified as a developer, or become a doctor/CPA? Yes, absolutely. Are they more likely to create a new medicine, accounting method, or data system? No.
Their entire goal is to get kids into highly ranked colleges and have them graduate. That is their end goal ("teaching the test").
We try to prepare our kids but also do socially-inclined events and other social outlets that use different types of thinking (like team sports). Like people posted earlier about the Apollo astronauts, smart jocks. Not only does this allow a level of freedom in thought/strategy, it teaches a whole new way to analyze systems from different levels outside of the "test" that the immigrant children are being taught.
So the high-performing immigrant mindset children will, for example, learn an instrument, but they lack the mentality to create new music. That is just outside of how their brain is developed. They are stressed in rote memorization/memory tasks and individual-based "box checking".
This is also why countries like China have never caught us in developing ideas/tech, and have to steal all of our IP. You'd think with their population advantage and educational system, they would have lapped us years ago, but they still lag behind because they are in the same "rote memorization of the structure/system and check off boxes" learning mentality.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is also why countries like China have never caught us in developing ideas/tech, and have to steal all of our IP. You'd think with their population advantage and educational system, they would have lapped us years ago, but they still lag behind because they are in the same "rote memorization of the structure/system and check off boxes" learning mentality.
The CCP also fears when the population is too creative.
For them to catch us could lead to the fall of the CCP.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
Agree, we don't want robots.
We absolutely do need to improve our culture and schools.
the H1B program needs to completely overhauld.
We absolutely do need to improve our culture and schools.
the H1B program needs to completely overhauld.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:43 pm to 50_Tiger
Two of my sons work for an engineering firm and they both see the desire for over half of their department to settle for mediocrity. It is evident when much of the work they do is unit pay based on output. Work more projects, work them faster and more efficient than others and more is headed your way. It’s a reward based environment. Be average make $75-$100K. Be above average and make $100-$200k+. Both are raking it in. 
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:46 pm to SCLibertarian
He isn't wrong. Kids today, and unfortunately their parents as well, are more celebrated by having likes and followers than celebrating grades.
I did a survey of 6th graders this year and more than 2/3 said they wanted to be a YouTuber or social media influencer as their job when they graduated.
I did a survey of 6th graders this year and more than 2/3 said they wanted to be a YouTuber or social media influencer as their job when they graduated.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is also why countries like China have never caught us in developing ideas/tech, and have to steal all of our IP. You'd think with their population advantage and educational system, they would have lapped us years ago, but they still lag behind because they are in the same "rote memorization of the structure/system and check off boxes" learning mentality.
It's the exact type of work you get from them. I inherited an Asian employee at a previous job who worked under me and she could not do anything without me specifically outlining step by step what she needed to do - and anytime something went off script so to speak she'd be at my desk asking what to do. Zero adaptability.
This is my experience at every tech job I've had when dealing with Asians or Indians.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:47 pm to goldennugget
Why dont you just start your own business if you are top tier IT
Beats crying about it on here
Beats crying about it on here
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
looks like word salad to me. Harris would be proud of sfp
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:54 pm to SDVTiger
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Why dont you just start your own business if you are top tier IT
Beats crying about it on here
That's what I did in my field (without the crying).
I see where the legal field is going and shifted gears.
He can always open up a Mexican restaurant. His enchiladas look good.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 5:54 pm to Trevaylin
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looks like word salad to me.
You don't know what "word salad" means, then
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