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Ventilator situation update? How are we doing with having enough?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:10 pm
Do we have enough vents to meet demand, in your opinion?
Cuomo said yes, but that could change.
Cuomo said yes, but that could change.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
JBE still needs 11,875 of his 12,000.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
There is not a vent for everyone in america nor would there ever be. We dont have a corvid every year, respiratory failure is few and far between.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
like I said before,
by the end of the month we are going to be up to our asses with them
20 years from now thousands will be sitting in warehouses in un-opened boxes.
by the end of the month we are going to be up to our asses with them
20 years from now thousands will be sitting in warehouses in un-opened boxes.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yes - the prevailing model, which to be fair has been very close with it's midline projection on deaths, has overestimated hospitalization use by a factor of 3 and ventilator by at least a factor of 2 if not 3.
We'll be fine. Recall we already had 3x the number of ICU beds per capita than Italy did. And demand (while robust in spots) has not broken any of our systems so far. And :fingerscrossed: we may be getting to the very worst of demand now and over the next few days.
We'll be fine. Recall we already had 3x the number of ICU beds per capita than Italy did. And demand (while robust in spots) has not broken any of our systems so far. And :fingerscrossed: we may be getting to the very worst of demand now and over the next few days.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The estimates of how long the patients would be on vent are important here. If the models assume that patients will be on vent for an average of 10 days, then the need for more vents is greater than if people actually placed on vent die in two to three days.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:As a nation, we absolutely have enough. We have roughly 3X more vents per capita than Italy or France, and about 5X that of Britain.
Ventilator situation update? How are we doing with having enough?
The problem is one of extreme need in hotspot locales. Especially in instances such as NY, where there was fair warning over several years of a relative ventilator shortage. Meanwhile, there are thousands of idled vents throughout the midwest.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Vents are now bad and not necessary...
Goal post have moved...
Goal post have moved...
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Given that 90% of the people who go on the Vents die, there should be a lot freeing up soon.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:24 pm to The Maj
quote:Meh, not really. But CPAP was apparently underutilized in some instances.
Vents are now bad and not necessary...
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
LA never got above 60% ventilation usage in any of the 6 regions.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:25 pm to NC_Tigah
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Meh, not really. But CPAP was apparently underutilized in some instances.
Turn your sarcasm meter in, shite is still busted the frick up...
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We got plenty. I counted the other day and we have more than enough.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:45 pm to TBoy
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The estimates of how long the patients would be on vent are important here. If the models assume that patients will be on vent for an average of 10 days, then the need for more vents is greater than if people actually placed on vent die in two to three days.
That's fairly obvious.
Probably pains you to say it, but with current demand, we are ok.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:10 pm to fjlee90
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Probably pains you to say it, but with current demand, we are ok.
We seem to be holding close to steady, but there’s a dark side to that as well.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
LA Dept of Health
Click on the ventilators tab below the map. Doesn't appear to be a shortage.
Edited to add there is frickery going on. The ventilator tab has been removed from https://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/ site.
I wish I took a screen shot. There were over 200 Vents available in region 1 as of noon today.
Click on the ventilators tab below the map. Doesn't appear to be a shortage.
Edited to add there is frickery going on. The ventilator tab has been removed from https://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/ site.
I wish I took a screen shot. There were over 200 Vents available in region 1 as of noon today.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:21 pm to TBoy
There’s thousands and thousands in the national reserve. Relax.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 5:06 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:34 pm to TBoy
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but there’s a dark side to that as well.
Go ahead and say it. People are dying as fast as they are going on Ventilators.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We're going to be using ventilators for boat anchors after this thing passes.
The press has made it THE measuring stick for public policy decisions while providing absolutely no rational context whatsoever.
The press has made it THE measuring stick for public policy decisions while providing absolutely no rational context whatsoever.
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