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Vaccine Mandates from the Past
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:50 pm
Here’s an interesting article from Politico on how a vaccine mandate was upheld in the early 1900’s. It was a strong majority led by a justice who both liberals and conservatives admire. Any thoughts on how it would go this time?
Politico
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:55 pm to LSU2ALA
Well if this vaccine would eradicate corona the way that one eradicated smallpox, you’d probably have a comparison. It doesn’t though.
Here is the issue. The driving force behind vaccinations are the 2 least trusted organizations in America; government and media. No vaccine mandate will be successful.
Here is the issue. The driving force behind vaccinations are the 2 least trusted organizations in America; government and media. No vaccine mandate will be successful.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:57 pm to LSU2ALA
Smallpox = Covid?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:02 pm to LSU2ALA
It was smallpox. Had a 30% mortality rate. I think Covid should be just a tiny bit differently risk ranked compared to smallpox.
Comparing apples and oranges.
Now if Covid had 30% death rate? Yeah, I would agree with the restrictions going on. Hell it might be Mad Max with a 30% death rate. I’d go in my house loaded down with 20 year food and firepower to defend until they got a vaccine.
Comparing apples and oranges.
Now if Covid had 30% death rate? Yeah, I would agree with the restrictions going on. Hell it might be Mad Max with a 30% death rate. I’d go in my house loaded down with 20 year food and firepower to defend until they got a vaccine.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:07 pm to Joecornbreadbrown
They manipulated the numbers so bad over the past year and half to fit an agenda that no one really knows the actual mortality rate of covid,
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:12 pm to PaulBurbank007
Even as badly as they manipulated it, year over year deaths aren’t significantly higher than previous years.
That means there may be a slight increase of total deaths but that a lot of other deaths are either people with weak systems who would have died anyway or outright bullshite like a motorcycle accident victim being called a Covid death because they had Covid, not because it was what killed them.
That means there may be a slight increase of total deaths but that a lot of other deaths are either people with weak systems who would have died anyway or outright bullshite like a motorcycle accident victim being called a Covid death because they had Covid, not because it was what killed them.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:21 pm to LSU2ALA
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the great plague of the first decade of the 20th Century was smallpox, an infectious disease so virulent that about a third of those who caught it would eventually succumb.
So, do the militant vaxxers really want to compare a disease that killed 33% of those who contracted it to a disease that kills .002% of those who contract it? And, those who do succumb to Covid almost always have comorbidities, especially obesity - which is something that can be prevented.
Add to that the fact that the "vaccine" isn't a real vaccine and the politicized FDA and CDC had to literally change the definition of the word "vaccine" to fit their political agenda, and someone would have to be a complete f*cking moron to rely on that earlier decision and apply it to the facts we are now faced with.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:24 pm to LSU2ALA
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:26 pm to LSU2ALA
I really don't give a frick what some bureaucrat ruled 100 years ago. It is immoral, unethical, and irresponsible. It also carries the potential for abuse. It's wrong and should be outlawed but even if it isn't, I will not comply.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:43 am to LSU2ALA
Um, this isn't the early 1900's.
Vastly different world, and believe it or not, the world was filled with men of integrity back then....today, nope.
You might as well compare a Datsun to a Space Shuttle.
Vastly different world, and believe it or not, the world was filled with men of integrity back then....today, nope.
You might as well compare a Datsun to a Space Shuttle.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:45 am to crewdepoo
Lol at groupofshit
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:50 am to LSU2ALA
You know what happened since?
Nuremberg
Nuremberg
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:41 am to udtiger
Reading that reminded me of a few great supreme court rulings including:
Dred Scott
Japanese Interment
In other words, the court back then does not have a moral leg to stand on. If precedent meant anything, we would still have slavery.
Dred Scott
Japanese Interment
In other words, the court back then does not have a moral leg to stand on. If precedent meant anything, we would still have slavery.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:01 am to LSU2ALA
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. Any thoughts on how it would go this time?
Vetted vaccines that eradicate human host only viruses are good and ought to be required.
Vetted vaccines that do not eradicate animal kingdom viruses ought to be optional
Unvetted vaccines that do not eradicate animal kingdom viruses ought to be regarded with severe scrutiny and taken at ones own risk
Now move along, powderpuff
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:14 am to LSU2ALA
There seems to have been some wisdom behind a century of data before imposing a vaccine mandate.
I might consider settling for 10 years.
I might consider settling for 10 years.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:16 am to Joecornbreadbrown
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Had a 30% mortality rate.
To clarify.. the mortality rate was between 30% and 50%
Also, Small Pox killed millions of people a year according to what I have read about it.
And the final caveat.. The small pox vaccine had been out since 1795 .. thats 110 (or more years..) prior to "mandates"
the Covid vaccine hasn't even been out 110 weeks....
Any comparison of COVID19 with small pox is like comparing a bb gun with a hydrogen bomb...
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:24 am to LSU2ALA
Mandating a vaccine that each new variant makes it less effective? Versus the smallpox vaccine. Apples vs Oranges.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:22 am to LSU2ALA
Here's a few key differences that should be taken into consideration.
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the case fatality rate of the variola major virus has been estimated to be around 30 percent
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If a patient successfully fought off the infection and survived, (s)he would never catch smallpox again
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There was never a treatment for smallpox. Once a person was infected it was impossible to treat them; one could only helplessly let the disease run its course.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:24 am to Joecornbreadbrown
quote:So the principle is not does the govt have the right to mandate...it's just where on the spectrum severity lies? Agreed?
It was smallpox. Had a 30% mortality rate. I think Covid should be just a tiny bit differently risk ranked compared to smallpox.
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