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US Department of Education. I need stats.

Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:20 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:20 pm
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The United States Department of Education (ED or DoED), also referred to as the ED for (the) Education Department, is aCabinet-level department of the United States government. Recreated by the Department of Education Organization Act(Public Law 96-88) and signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on October 17, 1979, it began operating on May 4, 1980.[2]
What are the US academic scores before and since the Department of Ed has been created?

I've got quite a buzz and I'm having a hard time finding the info.

Anybody have stats to show test scores pre and post?

TIA.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12007 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:23 pm to
Even if you do get test scores, they won't mean anything. You'd be comparing apples and oranges. Standardized tests have changed a whole lot, even just in the past few years. So the stats aren't likely to be very helpful.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:27 pm to
Well, have test scores dropped since the creation of the DoEd?

Have we fallen further behind the rest of the world? That's what I'm looking for.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12007 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:38 pm to
Again, the tests have changed significantly, so it won't be as cotton dry as before Dept. of Ed. vs. after Dept. of Ed.

Here is what can be a start for you. As you can see, there are a bunch of different studies, projects, etc. that are trying to analyze trends. This article mentions some going back to 1990, but I don't see anything going back to the 70s. Perhaps you can use it as a starting point.

LINK /
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:08 pm to
Thanks girlfriend.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89477 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Even if you do get test scores, they won't mean anything. You'd be comparing apples and oranges. Standardized tests have changed a whole lot, even just in the past few years. So the stats aren't likely to be very helpful.


Agree and disagree. There would be a lot of apples to oranges - but what you can figure out is that our standing in the world, particularly in math and science, has plummeted since the creation of the Dept. of Ed.

Now, whether that's causation or correlation is arguable, but the drop isn't.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3972 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:36 pm to
State testing as we know it today didn’t start until No Child Left Behind, early 2000’s. Not sure what you’d compare it to prior to that, most states just required the FLE for graduation.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Have we fallen further behind the rest of the world? That's what I'm looking for.


We haven't. The rest of the world just didn't worry about testing the ones they know won't do well.
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