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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:22 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:22 pm to Chromdome35
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I find it funny that someone seems to be camped out downvoting every post in this thread that discusses the numbers.
Don't sweat it. Some people have no life and nothing will make them happy.
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:24 pm to Janky
I don't care, it just amuses me.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:27 pm to Bonjourno
quote:There is such a backlog at a couple of national labs, especially Quest Diagnostics, that they are almost solely processing high risk samples, while the low risk samples sit somewhere. For California alone they have a backlog of 50,000.
Why was Tuesday such an anomaly? Both at the national and LA level. LA reported less tests than Monday but the positive % went from 7 to 25%. Something seems weird
Additionally for the 1st 4 days the tests were not comparable with the faster systems so many have been waiting for 14 days on those results.
Now some states with better hospital labs or different companies have avoided the backlog by avoiding Quest, like NY, WA, TX.
Unfortunately, testing is still a mess which will screw with trending. I think even some of the deaths happened days before but test results were pending.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:29 pm to Chromdome35
quote:Oh, I am sure that several posters have been hitting the RA button and trying to delete / anchor the thread. Maybe Chicken can confirm.
I find it funny that someone seems to be camped out downvoting every post in this thread that discusses the numbers.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:30 pm to mmcgrath
quote:While it is still not great, we are now testing more per capita than every nation in europe outside of germany.
Unfortunately, testing is still a mess which will screw with trending
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Testing is one thing...receiving the results is what is lagging.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:36 pm to Chromdome35
Latest FT international and regional comparison charts.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:39 pm to TigerDoc
I love the FT's graphs. I check them daily.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Germany is testing antibodies to determine immunity status and issuing "immunity cerftificates" to allow its workers onto the job (they're basically an export driven economy, so they can't prop themselves with direct cash transfer payments since their population is miserly). We should do something like this to let employers know who can safely be back at work.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:42 pm to Chromdome35
Me too. They just changed them up to have new cases instead of total cases on the y-axis to give a better sense of the changing nature of the epidemic, but China's bs data kinda ruins it for me visually.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:50 pm to TigerDoc
Florida and California’s data looks very encouraging as trends. Doesn’t look like they’ll get to a slope anywhere close to MI, LA or NY.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 12:55 pm to the808bass
I agree. It'll be interesting to see differences as CA has a mandatory shelter-in-place and FL doesn't. Florida has so many old people that it would be a disaster if they start to spike.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:00 pm to TigerDoc
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CA has a mandatory shelter-in-place and FL doesn't.
ok, so typed too soon.
quote:
Sam Brock
@SamBrockNBC
#BREAKING-- FL Gov.
@GovRonDeSantis
will be issuing exec. order today for ALL Floridians to stay at home, except for essential activity. "That order will be coming out momentarily...it will be going into effect tomorrow at midnight."
@NBCNews
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:02 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
. It'll be interesting to see differences as CA has a mandatory shelter-in-place and FL doesn't.
CA got hit early and they have population density issues (and even mass transit) that much of Florida doesn't have.
Florida has focused on limiting the influx of new seeders.
I like the fact we'll be able to compare their approaches, both of which seems to be working.
Nationally, we've taken a hybrid approach - limit international travel, some local travel advisories and national guidelines about social distancing.
Numbers-wise - we're doing well under the circumstances, particularly on deaths per capita. And while our data isn't perfect, I bet they're more honest than anyone else's.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:15 pm to TigerDoc
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Germany is testing antibodies to determine immunity status to the job (they're basically an export driven economy, so they can't prop themselves with direct cash transfer payments since their population is miserly). We should do something like this to let employers know who can safely be back at work.and issuing "immunity cerftificates" to allow its workers on
Doc, if I would get tested and were positive for antibodies, could I still touch it on a cart handle, etc and pass it on? I'm guessing so ...
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:17 pm to TigerDoc
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ALL Floridians to stay at home, except for essential activity. "That order will be coming out momentarily...it will be going into effect tomorrow at midnight."
I’m working with gut instinct here. But I think it makes more sense to make these orders when it becomes apparent your state is actually on the up slope of the bell curve. When there’s no real spread of the infection, it would be counterproductive to initiate the stay at home orders.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:22 pm to tiger91
You could pass virus to someone if you touch virus out in the world (from the cart to your hand to someone else), but you couldn't infect others from your own droplets, which is how the disease is generally transmitted.
I've seen the infectious disease authorities refuse to say it definitively that antibody response = immunity for this particular disease simply because the disease is still so new, but a positive antibody test will generally correlate with immunity to the individual and show that they're very low risk to shed viruses that will infect others. If they started issuing badges confirming a positive antibody status, people who are immune could be safely admitted back in public spaces without restriction.
I've seen the infectious disease authorities refuse to say it definitively that antibody response = immunity for this particular disease simply because the disease is still so new, but a positive antibody test will generally correlate with immunity to the individual and show that they're very low risk to shed viruses that will infect others. If they started issuing badges confirming a positive antibody status, people who are immune could be safely admitted back in public spaces without restriction.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:26 pm to Ace Midnight
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Nationally, we've taken a hybrid approach - limit international travel, some local travel advisories and national guidelines about social distancing.
Numbers-wise - we're doing well under the circumstances, particularly on deaths per capita. And while our data isn't perfect, I bet they're more honest than anyone else's.
Agree mostly. The place where we fell down is with early case-finding & tracking.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:28 pm to TigerDoc
Who is putting out these current videos from LA and NY hospitals showing no crowds/etc?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 1:33 pm to TigerDoc
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The place where we fell down is with early case-finding & tracking.
That's always going to be the case with a novel virus. I can't trust China's testing methodology (forget about their reported data), with all the reports of their tests failing when exported.
So, I agree with CDC's decision to go forward with their own test, they should have raised the alarm right then that they might have some scaling problems rather than have them exposed under direct fire.
The initial stumble on getting the test done AND then no ability to scale up was a bad way to start (like having your battleships lined up all nice and pretty to make it easy on the strike force sent to eliminate them) - but it is not how you start, it is how you finish.
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