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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM

Posted on 6/27/20 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8465 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 3:02 pm to
Being admittedly ignorant of medical protocol could doctors use Favipiravir to treat covid patients in the US right now?

Or I guess if I'm reading this correctly they would need emergency authorization? Could they use it today without getting in some sort of trouble?

I ask because it seems like early on some treatments were being tried/used that did or didn't have this authorization?

Sorry for all the questions but it's interesting and I have no idea how this works.



Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 4:06 pm to
We can’t use anything legally without FDA approval.

The drug has to be approved for something

We could frick around with hydroxychloroquine because it was at least approved for something in the United States and available
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 4:07 pm to
The FDA and the hands that grease those wheels.

Fauci was involved with the NIH study with Gilead and that’s how Remdesivir got the political capital to be fast tracked for emergency use
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8465 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

We can’t use anything legally without FDA approval.

The drug has to be approved for something

We could frick around with hydroxychloroquine because it was at least approved for something in the United States and available


Aha, thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.

Hopefully anything that shows promise will get fast track approval regardless of monetary considerations at this point.

Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:39 pm to
Just wanted to point out another day closer to that 2 weeks with NY and NJ still having more deaths than Florida.

I would expect it to change at some point.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6820 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:10 pm to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link New COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable New COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/















New Cases by State


New Deaths by State


7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6820 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:23 pm to
New Cases 43k up 36% from last Saturday and 7.3K 20% above the 7-day average. The rise in new cases is showing no sign of slowing down. Testing was high today at 590K with a 7.4% positivity rate. The positivity rate is up 1.7% from last week and is .8% above the 7-day average.

Deaths at 506 today down vs yesterday, last week and the 7-day average. Deaths continue to decline but the curve is definitely flattening out.

Mortality is down to 4.77% and falling.

Of the states, Florida is exhibiting the largest spike. New Cases were 9.5K up 136% from last Saturday and 73% above the 7-day average. Positivity is at 15.8% and climbing. Florida's death rate is holding steady at 7 day average of 36.

Texas is trending up as well, TX new cases are more closely following their testing trend unlike FL. The positivity rate for Texas is increasing slowly but steadily. Texas deaths are fairly flat.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89462 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:51 pm to
CD - is there any idea out there about how many of these positives are serology (antibody) versus active new infections?

And I know demographics are sometimes tough, but isn't the thinking that huge batches of these spike in cases are folks getting tested for other reasons (going back to work, or unrelated illness, routine testing) as opposed to the height of the original crisis period in mid/late April which was mostly for people in some sort of respiratory distress?

I'm assuming this isn't an apples-to-apples to back then, particularly with the death rate sliding. We were expecting deaths to trail new cases and that isn't happening based on the raw data.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33285 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:59 pm to
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Deaths at 506 today down vs yesterday, last week and the 7-day average. Deaths continue to decline but the curve is definitely flattening out.
This seems like it should be the headline of any publication that is printing headlines about the virus. Yes, infections up - but it's obviously not the vulnerable that are being infected.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33285 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Deaths at 506 today down vs yesterday, last week and the 7-day average. Deaths continue to decline but the curve is definitely flattening out.
This seems like it should be the headline of any publication that is printing headlines about the virus. Yes, infections up - but it's obviously not the vulnerable that are being infected.

Still just 7-10 days early to get too excited, but if this trend holds, it's essentially the best news imaginable.

And Trump is doing a shite ALL job of spreading the message.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89462 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

This seems like it should be the headline of any publication that is printing headlines about the virus. Yes, infections up - but it's obviously not the vulnerable that are being infected.


Well, the other thing - I would like to know how many positive antibody tests there are versus active infections, too. That's a positive stat, folks who were infected during the late Winter/Spring and never got sick. That decreased mortality and suggests (although not completely confirmed) immunity or at least resistance to future infection.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33285 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Well, the other thing - I would like to know how many positive antibody tests there are versus active infections, too. That's a positive stat, folks who were infected during the late Winter/Spring and never got sick. That decreased mortality and suggests (although not completely confirmed) immunity or at least resistance to future infection.
Yes, and...I would also like to know if we have gotten better at treating the virus. And also, is viral load per infection lower now that the locus of infections has moved outside of NY?

etc
etc

So many things that COULD be written about instead of just trumpeting the nominal infection numbers. I expect it from the media, but I'm fricking pissed at Trump for not attempting to control the message more.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89462 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

So many things that COULD be written about instead of just trumpeting the nominal infection numbers.


Journalism is dead.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Still just 7-10 days early to get too excited, but if this trend holds, it's essentially the best news imaginable.


We’re actually 12 days post the increase in new cases.
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3883 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Still just 7-10 days early to get too excited, but if this trend holds, it's essentially the best news imaginable.


This is the key. There was that lag from the spike in new cases to a spike in new deaths. If the new deaths continue to trend down and the new cases continue to trend up or plateau, then the case fatality (mortality) rate of this virus will plummet.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:23 am to
I have a really stupid question

When they test and you get a positive, then go for a retest a few days later either test negative or positive, does your initial test still count as a case separately?
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 4:15 pm to
Just wanted to say we are getting closer to 2 weeks of spike and NY still had more covid deaths today than Florida.

Has to change soon.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Has to change soon.


It doesn’t have to. It may.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 4:33 pm to
True. I forgot to say with insanely lower cases than Florida for a long time.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 4:37 pm to
It’s a shithole state with a broken government (NY). They suck at testing. They suck at treatment. They suck at discharge planning. They suck at contact tracing.
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