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re: UHC exec killer wasn’t read rights before questioning and warranties search conducted?

Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:02 pm to
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I’m trying to get you to think WHY someone wouldn’t file for a speedy trial.


Because they don’t know they can.

Do you think Kalief Bowder knew he could file a motion and request a speedy trial and just chose not to?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:04 pm to
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Do you think Kalief Bowder knew he could file a motion and request a speedy trial and just chose not to?


His public defender should have informed him
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7081 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:05 pm to
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Do you think Kalief Bowder knew he could file a motion and request a speedy trial and just chose not to?


Yes. Now ask why didn’t he?

Why would someone not do that?
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 9:06 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59019 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:05 pm to
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I’m trying to get you to think WHY someone wouldn’t file for a speedy trial.


Luigi is cooked. That’s why he isn’t rushing to trial.

Most people in pretrial detention are nothing like him, though. They have petty charges and are poor.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8339 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:06 pm to
I legitimately wanted to know what the hell you were talking about. Perhaps you and other liberals thought the police illegally searched through Luigi’s owner’s manuals?
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7081 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:07 pm to
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Most people in pretrial detention are nothing like him, though. They have petty charges and are poor.


So why don’t they?

ETA: And it’s not because they don’t know. They have public defenders.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8339 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:10 pm to
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His public defender should have informed him


Most criminal defendants want the process to be delayed. Witnesses die, evidence gets lost, etc. It’s a benefit for hopelessly guilty people to delay the prosecution. They don’t want a speedy trial.
Posted by CA Jones
Member since Jan 2021
293 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:11 pm to
Quattro Cubbies:

You should seek help.It may not be too late.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7081 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:11 pm to
Daggumit! I want her to come to that conclusion!

Hello! Socratic method being conducted over here.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 9:12 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59019 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:12 pm to
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Do you think Kalief Bowder knew he could file a motion and request a speedy trial and just chose not to?
quote:

Yes. Now ask why didn’t he?



His charges were ultimately dropped so it’s hard to believe that he chose to sit in jail for years rather than request a speedy trial.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179354 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:13 pm to
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His charges were ultimately dropped so it’s hard to believe that he chose to sit in jail for years rather than request a speedy trial.


He should sue his public defender for not telling him his options
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59019 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:14 pm to
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ETA: And it’s not because they don’t know. They have public defenders.


Are you at all familiar with the criminal justice system? Do you have any first hand experience?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5911 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Are you at all familiar with the criminal justice system? Do you have any first hand experience?

Do you?

Not post imprisonment, but first hand experience with the court cases.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7081 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:18 pm to

quote:

His charges were ultimately dropped so it’s hard to believe that he chose to sit in jail for years rather than request a speedy trial.


He was charged with robbery, grand larceny, and assault. How many years was he looking at?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148178 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:18 pm to
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Do police have to leave you alone if you tell them you don’t want to talk?
you’re so retarded
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7081 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:19 pm to
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Are you at all familiar with the criminal justice system? Do you have any first hand experience?


Yes. Very much so. You?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59019 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:20 pm to
Oh hey. I actually thought of you the other day. I was in a meeting with a bunch of stakeholders for something. A formerly incarcerated man was also there and actually said, “People in prison are traumatized. Being in prison is traumatizing.” I didn’t get the chance to tell him he’s wrong, though.

quote:

Not post imprisonment, but first hand experience with the court cases.
I’ve never been arrested and I’m not an attorney or judge.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179354 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:23 pm to
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Being in prison is traumatizing



There's a pretty easy fix to this
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7081 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:23 pm to
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His charges were ultimately dropped


Charges being dropped could be for a multitude of reasons.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1024 posts
Posted on 12/6/25 at 9:23 pm to
I'm not asking in general, I'm asking in this specific case.

With what we know, do you think the UHC killer should be found guilty or not? It's a simple question.
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