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Tucker off the top rope on green energy

Posted on 2/17/21 at 6:03 am
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8815 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 6:03 am
Like him or not, Tucker dropped some truth nukes on green energy elites like Kerry and Booker

LINK Fox youtube
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10959 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 6:33 am to
Hear, hear!...
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21717 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 6:34 am to
“Cory Booker couldn’t fix your ice maker, much less understand your wind farm”



Last night might’ve been one of the best Tucker segments ever. Just flat out truth that no one can deny, I mean, they will, but it won’t be fact based, just hate
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 6:38 am
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 7:01 am to
Except ALL parts of the Texas grid failed. We should not lie because they do.

“ By some estimates, nearly half of the state’s natural gas production has screeched to a halt due to the extremely low temperatures, while freezing components at natural gas-fired power plants have forced some operators to shut down.”

Both wind and gas sources would have been fine if properly winterized.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 7:04 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18565 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:07 am to
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Both wind and gas sources would have been fine if properly winterized.





I don't want the power suppliers in Texas to charge me for them wasting money winterizing their power generation and supply lines for an event that likely will not happen again in any of our lifetimes.

Also, a lot of plants are offline for scheduled maintenance as this is the "light" demand season.

While we are being honest we should just say there was a combination of events:

1) federal over regulation
2) plants offline for maintenance
3) freezing gas lines
and the biggest
4) once in a century cold snap.



Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9108 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:11 am to
5) and some power companies refusing to pay the spot price for nat gas ...thus having a "few" plants run out and shut down. But it sounds better when they tell the public we had icing issues and instrumentation issues...
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7571 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Both wind and gas sources would have been fine if properly winterized.

How does one properly, and cost-effectively, winterize a wind farm?
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6874 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Both wind and gas sources would have been fine if properly winterized.


Educate me on the process of winterizing giant wind turbines. Wouldn’t that require the use of sealants/lubricants made from fossil fuels?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9108 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:25 am to
As I understand it, unless you have a deicing system installed on each turbine, you cannot prevent the icing on the blades from forming in storms like this. I don't know of the practicality of installing one of these systems but the cost would be prohibitive and you would throw that shite for miles.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11957 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Both wind and gas sources would have been fine if properly winterized.



You seem to have a grasp of the situation.

Explain how you winterize a wind turbine for us ignorant folks.
What would be the cost?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:04 am to
quote:

I don't want the power suppliers in Texas to charge me for them wasting money winterizing their power generation and supply lines for an event that likely will not happen again in any of our lifetimes.


According to the data insurance companies use to calculate potential risk of property loss Texas has had 16 ice storms of similar magnitude over the last 50 years. I know lived through three of them.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:05 am to
Norway literally has off shore wind farms. The technology exists. It was a business decision to not prepare.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21665 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:08 am to
quote:

It was a business decision


I would hope so.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Both wind and gas sources would have been fine if properly winterized.


Well, in theory there could be a huge colony on the Moon. I mean the tech has been there for 50 years, it comes down to costs.

Wind/solar generally on scale don't solve anything and produce more problems than they could ever fix and that is ignoring the obvious huge negative costs associated with it.

Nothing wrong with wind/solar, but there is a problem with over selling something that clearly can't help at scale.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 10:15 am
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17271 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Norway literally has off shore wind farms. The technology exists. It was a business decision to not prepare.
I'm guessing the Norwegians made a similar business decision not to equip those turbines to operate in 100+ degree heat.

Posted by robbykidd
Tulsa
Member since May 2011
1379 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:50 am to
You guys help make the point for a green Energy by mentioning all the uses for petroleum. Sealants, plastics, etc...Just because you reduce combustible emissions in engines doesn’t take away the hundreds of uses for petroleum. Fossil fuels have multiple uses. The industry isn’t going anywhere.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14329 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:55 am to
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How does one properly, and cost-effectively, winterize a wind farm?

I visit Finland at least twice a year (relatives)....80% of their power grid is from wind farms...btw it gets cold there.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4077 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:55 am to
"Save the planet" while you freeze to death!
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18700 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:02 am to
Last night was one of the reasons I haven't give up on Tucker just yet. He disappointed me for some time, but without Sidney Powell actually providing anything, he seems to be justified back then, at least to a degree.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94780 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:02 am to
Does it get hot there too?

As pointed out above, prepping turbines for one set of weather isn’t nearly the problem of prepping them for two polar extremes like 0F ice storms and 100F+ heatwaves within a few months of each other.
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