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re: Trump’s people ignored his “orders”

Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Leaders and subordinates in real life ROUTINELY conflict over courses of action and, leaders OFTEN want to take courses that they end up changing upon input from their senior staff

By often, I mean it's pretty much a daily fricking occurrence! That's why it is so damned important to have senior staff willing to say, "um, sir, bad idea an here's why"


Bingo.

But this can be true and the attempt still be obstruction.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47770 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:14 pm to
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LOL pretty funny considering how much you use that is your weapon against me.


That’s because you are a racist.

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Donald Trump has people resign around him all the time because I think he's either a moron are some of they don't want to be involved with due to his proclivities towards unethical Behavior.

Complete speculation.

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There's nothing that bad about that take. It's simply the truth.


It’s a low education take from a low education poster.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47770 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:15 pm to
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He attempted to obstruct Justice


No such thing. Do you know the elements of obstruction?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123729 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:30 pm to
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Trump’s people ignored his “orders”
First off, there is a great deal of "interpretation" involved here.

But MOST IMPORTANTLY, everything being discussed targets "obstruction". In this instance "obstruction" represents a process offense. Nothing more.

Let's repeat that!

The collusion case was a crock. Mueller apparently had that figured out early on. If there is no phony collusion narrative, there would never be any instance of a question of obstruction offense.

--- As with PapaD, and Flynn who were caught in perjury traps, no offense was committed prior to the SP creating an offense.

The audacity of Mueller and his team of hacks in not coming clean on collusion when that part of the investigation was done, yet questioning others on obstruction, is thick. Mueller and his team of hacks question an administration re: obstruction after it turned over millions of documents, never invoked privilege, and was cooperative.

Really?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29846 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:53 pm to
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The audacity of Mueller and his team of hacks in not coming clean on collusion when that part of the investigation was done, yet questioning others on obstruction, is thick. Mueller and his team of hacks question an administration re: obstruction after it turned over millions of documents, never invoked privilege, and was cooperative.


It was real kind of him to conclude that the evidence wasnt there on collusion...no shite Sherlock, there wasnt a case to put together on collusion the entire time. There's no collusion federal regulation. Had there EVER existed an evidentiary case on "collusion" Mueller would have immediately began to instead refer to conspiracy an actual statutory crime.

Smoke and mirrors, confuse confuse confuse, then take no real position on anything about anything.

Oh, and as for obstruction, this top level prosecutor with decades of experience actually and on record concluded, essentially, that while he's hesitant on proof beyond a reasonable doubt as required by the U.S. Constitution, he suggested that Congress to get after it with his compiled "proof short of erasing reasonable doubt". He's morally, professionally and ethically corrupt.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7727 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:59 pm to
Was the investigation impeded by Trump? That is the essential question. He didn’t dismiss Mueller, even though he could have, he didn’t fire Sessions until close to the end of the investigation, Rosenstein is still around. All of the supposed gotcha moments are literally Trump thinking out loud with actions he never carried out.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:56 am to
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What is this "attempted" horse shite?

Prosecutors don't exonerate.


Quit Playing Games, bitch. You know what Mueller said.

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Give us a caravan report.


You tell me, Mr obsessive.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47770 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:55 am to
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Quit Playing Games, bitch. You know what Mueller said.

Mueller said he didn’t have the evidence to prosecute and punted to the AG. AG shut it down. Total exoneration. And there is no such thing as attempted obstruction, you ignorant twit.


Happy Easter.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:59 am to
You're a disingenuous twit.

This is from a republican group that's about to put ads all over Fox News:

“It's clear from the report today that there's a lot of political interference that was attempted [by Trump],” Sarah Longwell, executive director of Republicans for the Rule of Law, told Newsweek. “This is not the end of the Mueller investigation, this is just the beginning. It looks like the Mueller report really is a road map for Congress. And that there was no exoneration, definitely obstruction.”

Most rational people on either side realize what all of this means but keep living in your fantasy world
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:01 am to
That's a lot of words to say that you don't understand what's happening.

This is from the Republican group that's about to put ads on Fox News:

“It's clear from the report today that there's a lot of political interference that was attempted [by Trump],” Sarah Longwell, executive director of Republicans for the Rule of Law, told Newsweek. “This is not the end of the Mueller investigation, this is just the beginning. It looks like the Mueller report really is a road map for Congress. And that there was no exoneration, definitely obstruction.”
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:01 am to
“It's clear from the report today that there's a lot of political interference that was attempted [by Trump],” Sarah Longwell, executive director of Republicans for the Rule of Law, told Newsweek. “This is not the end of the Mueller investigation, this is just the beginning. It looks like the Mueller report really is a road map for Congress. And that there was no exoneration, definitely obstruction.”
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:01 am to
“It's clear from the report today that there's a lot of political interference that was attempted [by Trump],” Sarah Longwell, executive director of Republicans for the Rule of Law, told Newsweek. “This is not the end of the Mueller investigation, this is just the beginning. It looks like the Mueller report really is a road map for Congress. And that there was no exoneration, definitely obstruction.”
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:03 am to
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When he said illegal or baseless stupidity, people chose to ignore him, hoping he'd get his attention Tangled in some personal matters of egoity and forget his previous ideas.

Senility.


Is it good to thing to do with narcissists in general. You bring up a whole other issue that's all about them and they forget the previous thing
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:04 am to
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Every liberal in this thread has outed themselves as losers who have never been in anything vaguely resembling a role of responsibility


Another meaningless one sentence from you. Congratulations on your vague sense of superiority. I also want to give you congratulations for your streak of never actually saying anything. Pigeon chess.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:33 am to
Trumps advisors/cabinet provide the data and being CEO he weighs all the information and decides the course of action.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22767 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:44 am to
This thread is stupid. Trump gave orders he is bad. Trump didn't give orders he isn't a good leader and shouldn't be commander in chief. Trump ignores his advisors, he is a horrible leader. Trump blindly follows his leaders advise, not a sign of a great leader... impeach!

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47770 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 7:19 pm to
Barr and Rosenstein disagree. Exoneration!
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 7:39 pm to
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LOL. You think this is normal behavior? The guy has no impulse control.


Meh, you sore loser lefties would indict President Trump for obstruction just because he thought about doing something you claim is obstruction.

frick y'all!!!
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 7:47 pm to
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“It's clear from the report today that there's a lot of political interference that was attempted [by Trump],” Sarah Longwell, executive director of Republicans for the Rule of Law, told Newsweek. “This is not the end of the Mueller investigation, this is just the beginning. It looks like the Mueller report really is a road map for Congress. And that there was no exoneration, definitely obstruction.”


That road map to obstruction leads to a dead end street.

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Sarah Longwell, executive director of Republicans for the Rule of Law


She sounds like a NeverTrumper to me.

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 7:48 pm to
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