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re: Trump is not enacting tariffs so we can have tariffs, he's trying to get rid of them.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:37 am to Warboo
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:37 am to Warboo
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So the best option would be to just sit here and take it up the arse. Gotcha.
Why is government involved?
Its trade between two private parties.
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre trying to find rationality in something progressives do?
No, if you go back to my first post in this thread I'm calling out the hypocrisy of progressives. That's my angle.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:38 am to LSURussian
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Using tariffs to get rid of tariffs is like borrowing to get out of debt....
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:38 am to momentoftruth87
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Trump is certainly smarter than your average anchorage community college grad when it comes to business and economics.
Or a bartender from the Bronx.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:39 am to Azkiger
Sure but when the trump administration says they want Tarriffs to fund the government, doesn’t that mean we need them to produce a lot of money?
Also the Trump administration has said this is how we are going to get manufacturing jobs back to america.
So don’t we need the tariffs?
So how do we use them as a negotiation tool in the trade war when we can’t just lower them?
Also the Trump administration has said this is how we are going to get manufacturing jobs back to america.
So don’t we need the tariffs?
So how do we use them as a negotiation tool in the trade war when we can’t just lower them?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:39 am to SammyTiger
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SammyTiger
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I can’t figure out
first honest thing you have posted. progress
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:39 am to geauxkoo
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Maybe I'm not reading this right, but it seems to me that what he is trying to do is convince other countries to remove their tariffs on American goods. The way he is doing this is by enacting reciprocal tariffs.
This ^^^^^
Other countries have been putting huge tariffs on US goods for years...and Canada is one of the worst. Now the are running their mouths like they are the victims here. They are nearing the FO part of the FAFO equation.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why is government involved?
Its trade between two private parties.
Because other nations GOVERNMENTS are tariffing us. Get their governments and tariffs out of trade and we will gladly do the same.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why is government involved?
Because China uses slave labor and can royally frick us like they have been.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why is government involved? It’s trade between two private parties.
So no foreign governments were ever involved in keeping American companies from doing business until now?
That’s your stance?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:42 am to Warboo
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Because other nations GOVERNMENTS are tariffing us.
Thats their loss and why they are still shithole countries.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:43 am to SammyTiger
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Sure but when the trump administration says they want Tarriffs to fund the government, doesn’t that mean we need them to produce a lot of money?
Trying to list the pros of tariffs because he understands there will be some pain felt during the trade war.
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Also the Trump administration has said this is how we are going to get manufacturing jobs back to america.
Lowering foreign tariffs on American goods is one component that can help with this.
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So how do we use them as a negotiation tool in the trade war when we can’t just lower them?
They lower theirs and we lower ours. This has been Trump's stance.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:43 am to texag7
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So no foreign governments were ever involved in keeping American companies from doing business until now?
No, we've had all kids of commie activities keeping Americans from pursuing the American dream. Youre just adding to it.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:43 am to SammyTiger
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I can’t figure out if it is about american producer protectionism, revenue for the federal government or trade war tactics.
You can't figure it out b/c Trump has been vague and self-contradictory about it and so the populists who believe anything he says have used every one of those arguments plus at least one more that you didn't mention.
They've only recently solidified into it being about forcing free trade.
2-3 weeks ago they were literally still posting things like "free trade is for pussies."
They don't know why they are for tariffs other than that Trump wants to impose them. Any specific reason will do for them beyond that.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:43 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:43 am to Warboo
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Because other nations GOVERNMENTS are tariffing us. Get their governments and tariffs out of trade and we will gladly do the same.
I thought the plan was to bring manufacturing back and to get enough external revenue to fund the government?
How are we going to accomplish that if those governments agree to drop their tariffs on us?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably why they are far less wealthy than us
Saving this for the next time someone tells me "mUh Europe is superior"
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats their loss and why they are still shithole countries.
Wait. You just said it was between two private parties.
So you lied? Or you’re just stupid?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:44 am to geauxkoo
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Trump is not enacting tariffs so we can have tariffs, he's trying to get rid of them.
Currently a good example is Argentina. U.S. and Argentina are not yet in a free trade agreement, but both Trump and Milei have signaled intent for a free trade agreement and preliminary steps to a free trade agreement seem underway. I think the agreement hinges mostly on MERCOSUR dynamics.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:45 am to Bigdawgb
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Saving this for the next time someone tells me "mUh Europe is superior"
You'll never hear that from me.
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