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Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:26 pm to Iosh
The art of the deal 
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:27 pm to Navytiger74
Buick, Ford, Cadillac, and Volvo all have models produced in China and sold in the U.S.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:27 pm to GumboPot
quote:So the bogeyman won't just keep going through Mexico?
It's the pass thoughs that will hurt them. They have been avoiding the tariffs through pass throughs. China can't avoid the tariff now.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:29 pm to Usafgiles
quote:
I'll withhold judgement to see if that is the case, but why not just single them out and maybe add SOKO.
It appears that the strategy is to force countries to show that they are not passing through Chinese steel and aluminum. We already have good control on Mexico and Canada due to our close and long time relationship so it makes sense to give them exemptions right now (plus NAFTA re-negotiations).
The remaining countries will have to show they are not passing through Chinese steel and aluminum. When the do, they get exemptions.
That's a MUCH easier strategy than trying to track down every offending country and singling them out. Make them do the work.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:29 pm to Usafgiles
quote:Thanks. Didn't really think they were doing so in any volume. Any idea what that amounts to in a year?
Buick, Ford, Cadillac, and Volvo all have models produced in China and sold in the U.S.
Yeah I'm being a lazy arse. I guess I can google.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:30 pm to Navytiger74
yea, I'm not sure about the $ amount. I just read something the other day about a Buick SUV, the Focus, and i think the CT6 Hybrid being made over there.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:32 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
So the bogeyman won't just keep going through Mexico?
No, the boogeyman that controls North Korea won't keep going through Mexico. However apparently we are giving Mexico (and Canada) the benefit of the doubt by giving them exemptions up front.
Do you see the geopolitical strategy? I think I do.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:34 pm to GumboPot
Volvo's for attorneys increasing in cost! But only for attorneys that can actually afford Volvo's!
MAGA!
Economics!
LSU Graduate School of Skippy the Junior Banking Assistant, Economist and Attorney!
MAGA!
Economics!
LSU Graduate School of Skippy the Junior Banking Assistant, Economist and Attorney!
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:35 pm to GumboPot
I still think it's dangerous to toy with the EU, especially for the agriculture sector.
They will respond for sure, and the economic benefit felt from U.S. steel producers will be minimal. They aren't going to ramp up production/hiring when they know these tariffs will be short lived. Companies typically invest for the long-term.
They will respond for sure, and the economic benefit felt from U.S. steel producers will be minimal. They aren't going to ramp up production/hiring when they know these tariffs will be short lived. Companies typically invest for the long-term.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:37 pm to GumboPot
quote:
They have been avoiding the tariffs through pass throughs
What does that mean, exactly? And what tariffs have they been avoiding?
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:42 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
What does that mean, exactly? And what tariffs have they been avoiding?
Hopefully this real life example answers your questions:
Chinese billionaire 'hid $2bn aluminium pile in Mexican desert and then sold it across the border to America to avoid costly tariffs', claim US rivals
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:46 pm to teke184
quote:
pass-through
Try doing that without driving up prices
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:46 pm to GumboPot
quote:I see what you copied from the grocery store
Do you see the geopolitical strategy? I think I do.
Tell Mr Publix that China's economic survival is in the opposite of jeopardy
A symbolic tariff ain't gonna get rid of any missiles
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:46 pm to GumboPot
so the "pass throughs" are NAFTA countries?
what was all that about us "forcing countries to show that they are not passing through Chinese steel and aluminum" when the exemptions are for Canada/Mexico, then?
and do we have any idea of the magnitude of this behavior? these tariffs impose some pretty costly measures worldwide if this is their actual target. this theory of yours seems pretty weak man, maybe even weaker than the national security argument has been shown to be
what was all that about us "forcing countries to show that they are not passing through Chinese steel and aluminum" when the exemptions are for Canada/Mexico, then?
and do we have any idea of the magnitude of this behavior? these tariffs impose some pretty costly measures worldwide if this is their actual target. this theory of yours seems pretty weak man, maybe even weaker than the national security argument has been shown to be
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:46 pm to GumboPot
How would these current tariffs prevent this, since mexico is exempted? Just skimmed the article, but I imagine this guy was making his aluminum appear to come from mexico.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:48 pm to Iowa Golfer
quote:
Volvo's for attorneys increasing in cost! But only for attorneys that can actually afford Volvo's!
MAGA!
Economics!
LSU Graduate School of Skippy the Junior Banking Assistant, Economist and Attorney!
thanks for the sensible and substantive contribution, as always
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:49 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:quote:
It's a NAFTA play.
i thought it was national security?
You might want to quit demonstrating that you have no clue as to whats going on
Youre just posting to bitch at this point
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:50 pm to Usafgiles
It's pretty funny..
We don't import huge amounts of steel from China
Yes we do, you just didn't know it because it comes through Mexico. That's all gonna change now
But Mexico is exempt
Yeah, but..
We don't import huge amounts of steel from China
Yes we do, you just didn't know it because it comes through Mexico. That's all gonna change now
But Mexico is exempt
Yeah, but..
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:50 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
You might want to quit demonstrating that you have no clue as to whats going on
translation: SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP STOP QUESTIONING MY IDOL HE'S ALL I HAVE
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